Big Cliff

It wouldn't be the butterflies in my stomach that would be uncomfortable at that point LOL.

One bottle each of that and you'll be lucky if you can go anywhere LOL

I wonder how many successful people on the board can say that they started at the top right out of school. The only job I know of where you can do that and be successful is a well digger! I'll bet you none of the guys that have made it for themselves on here sat around waiting for someone to hand them the golden key! We all started at the bottom and worked our way up sometimes a couple of times over in our life. I'll also bet that many of us did it by starting at minimum wage and proving (or improving) ourselves as we went. As far as living in Peterborough or the Kawarthas; There are plenty of people that live in this area very comfortably on a lot less income than $20.00/hour. We rent a large two bedroom apartment out to students every year, fireplace, fully furnished, all inclusive and right on the lake for $1100.00 a month. Gas is cheeper, insurance is cheeper, parking is cheeper, and it is a very different lifestyle than you get living in the city. We catch walleye right off the dock in season, have an ice hut that they can use anytime they want (as long as they help maintain it). We can hunt deer, rabbits, partridge and water foul almost right on our property (well, you might have to walk across the road to hunt the deer). What I am having trouble understanding is why there have been so many posts leaning toward "give me more, I deserve it"! There are only two things in this world that will influance how you end up making your life! Do you have a wish bone or a back bone? Either by themselves aren't worth much but (wish for it +work for it) = SUCCESS

Probably one of the best posts of the season and could very easily end up saving someones life. Thanks for the reminder!

I'm not going to bother buying one this year, didn't buy one last year or the year before that and never had a problem!

One of the smartest men I ever knew had a grade 2 formal education. I myself quit school in grade 7 and went to work. I ended up starting and running a very successful business until I sold it in 2003 to retire. True, I did go back to school later, finished my high school and then went on to college but that was after I had started a family and had my feet solidly on the ground. As an employer I often had people coming to me looking for jobs, some of the ones with degrees out the you know what had no idea how the real world worked.

Talk to me, there might be a way. Call me at home 705-328-0577

A good laugh is always worth having! Too many people don't laugh often enough.

Plumber: Only job I know where you aren't happy until you flush everything down the drain.

LOL

Chris, thank you so much for posting this information! Yours in Conservation also! Big Cliff

A company I am doing some part time work for is going to be hiring two more A-Z drivers based out of Lindsay. They are super people to work for! If anyone is interested, PM me and I'll give you the contact information and you can get your resume in before they even post the job. No, I don't know what they are paying. Yes, I believe it might require the odd over night run Yes I do believe there could be some US runs. Yes it would be full time That is all I know at this point.

If I could bring you all anything it would be my wish that you all had as much happyness in your lives as I have had in mine. I am very blessed to have a wonderful wife, two fantastic kids, and so many wonderful friends! Well Paul, I am so sorry for your loss but your story is absolutly heart warming. So many of us wish we had even one more day with a loved one, I'm glad you had your Christmas with your mom, I can only imagine how special that was for you and her!

Still better than having to take work in an unrelated field and a heck of a lot better than working at minimum wage in an unrelated field. It's a place to start, a foot in the door and an opportunity (the three hardest things to find when you are fresh out of school) to advance up the ladder and a higher rate of pay.

Now this is a good thread, brings back so many wonderful memories!

I know how bad it is, we had the pleasure of having two very well educated and experienced people with enviromental backgrounds living with us last winter and they had a heck of a time trying to find work in their field. I hope you do apply for it and it would be wonderful to see a post on here that one of our members got the job! Good luck!

Wow, that would be hard to top, match maybe but top? I don't really remember it but apparently when I was about two I got up early Christmas morning and opened EVERY present under the tree. I guess my poor mom had a heck of a time writing thank you notes (yes that was what you did back then) to people thanking them for the lovely ????? LOL. According to the reports I got I had a lot of fun! The other one was one year (I was a little older) I saw a cook book that I really wanted. I didn't think my mom or wife would think of getting it for me so I bought it, had it wrapped at the mall and marked it : To Cliff from Santa. Christmas morning as I distributed the gifts I held it back until the last. When I opened it I acted all surprised and thanked Santa profusly. Sue thought mom had bought it for me, Mom thought Sue had bought it for me, and it wasn't until a couple of years later and they were talking about cook books that they realized thet neither of them had given it to me and the jig was up. Yes Veronica there really is a Santa LOL.

You my friend are a very smart man!

Wow, when I posted this I thought I might be letting someone know about an opportunity they might have otherwise missed, I didn't mean to start a "discussion" about whether this was a fair wage or not. Quite frankly with the shortage of jobs available in the "enviromental" field, I see this as an excellent opportunity for someone to get in and perhaps use this as a stepping stone to building a solid career in this or related fields. OFAH is a solid organization with a long standing history, job security is fairly secure, and it would make a good addition to any resume for related jobs elsewhere. Lord knows this is an area that is going to develop a lot more as we as a society move forward. I also know that it is a good clean relaxed place to work in a modern facility where accopmlishments are recognized and opportunities are abundent. True, $36,000.00 isn't at the top of the pay scale but I have worked at a lot of jobs that didn't pay anywhere near that amount of money to start. (heck, I have worked in a lot of jobs where the pay was nowhere close to this) I think it is important to consider that this is a starting salary and $20.00 an hour to start is a lot more than many people make right now. I happen to know one young lady that has a degree in enviromental studies and a deploma in enviromental studies graduated with honers and who would have jumped at the chance to get this opportunity if she wasn't living on the East coast. Anyway, I hope my posting this has helped to give someone a chance but at least it is out there. I'd love to hear that someone on OFC has started a career in a field that will do something toward protecting and enhansing our enviroment.

Here is the link to the job posting, just thought there might be a few people on here that would enjoy it. http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/detail-eng.aspx?OrderNum=7237550&Source=JobPosting&RchJobType=Reg_jobs&TmFrm=E7Days&CmmGrp=GON032&OpPage=50&PgNum=2

I'll be interested to hear how you make out regardles of where you go. Please let us know.

Terry you are so right and I know you are one of the smart ones. Unfortunatly there are those that seem to THINK they are smart and end up paying the price. (Just like no bank rober thinks they will ever be caught. The jails are full of them LOL.) I know you and would follow you out almost anywhere (walking in your foot steps)! Just glad to hear you had a good time and you were safe!

Now that is an offer you would be foolish to refuse! I would gladly help you but Wayne's offer is much better than I could do for you right now.

Be safe are the key words here! Someone will push the limit for the sake of getting out there, someone will pay with their life. Happens every year! When we tested the ice here it was three guys, roped together, 50' apart flotation suits and a boat in tow. Tested the ice every 50' or so. Just remember the next step could be your last step. Perhaps I am over cautious but there is a very slim chance that you will ever read that Big Cliff went through the ice and drowned. I haven't lived this long by being stupid LOL.

There was a very little bit of slush just at the shore but that was it. Didn't you just text me on Sunday to ask about ice conditions? Goose Bay was frozen right across in front of our place at that point. Where were you hunting?