Cosmos Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Hi guys, Looking to get some wise advise from knowledgeable people. I do have Johnson 2003 25 hp with electric start. Motor was running perfectly fine, until I turned plastic cap on top of the starter's pinion gear couple times preparing it to season - stupid move but I wasn't thinking that this can do something to motor at that point. Now once I am starting it - it starts fine, but that pinion gear(sorry if I am not correct) didn't go down fast enough and for 1 or 2 seconds it's making weird sound. I was trying to turn clockwise small plastic cap on top of it same one I turned originally, but I can't set it properly. Can someone, please, give me instructions how to do that? Also I would like to know if I need to lubricate shaft with spring under that plastic cap? Thank you very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Hopefully bernie will see this I am sure he has the answer or one of our other motor guru's we are lucky enough to have here. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Hopefully bernie will see this I am sure he has the answer or one of our other motor guru's we are lucky enough to have here. Art Thank you Art, I really hope he sees this topic too. This problem is driving me nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Cosmos, stop playing with the plastic cap on your johnson, only girls do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Cosmos, stop playing with the plastic cap on your johnson, only girls do that. Will stop right away once it's back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desship Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 The gear is getting stuck and and won't release needs a few drops of oil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 I don't think there is anything much under that cap but a retainer clip. Perhaps you loosened up some dirt under it and it stuck on the starter drive. This may be preventing the starter drive from dropping back out correctly. Spray clean it with some brake cleaner, then apply a light oil on the drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Thank you guys, I am adding picture of same starter as i have to clarify things. Hope this will help. Just want to confirm before doing something wrong. Proper way to oil it will be pull a plastic cap and clean everything from that shaft and oil it after, right? What about that spring which is under the cap, if i am turning it clockwise or conter clockwise - i can see the difference and can hear it as well. Looks like it's not pressing to hard or does press to hard depend which direction you go. Is any way how to set it right? What kind of oil i should use? My starter diagram: http://www.boats.net/parts/search/BRP/JOHNSON/2003/J25ELSTA/ELECTRIC%20STARTER%20%26%20SOLENOID/parts.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 I find that oil and grease tend to cause problems when dirt and grime sticks to it. I think there is a teflon/silicone spray of somekind that might be better for this application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Thanks Jimmer, I think lithium grease would work well in this application. Something like that: http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/4/Auto/3/AutoFluidsChemicals/LubricantsPenetrants/PRD~0381563P/3-in-1+Professional+White+Lithium+Grease.jsp?locale=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 I would still go with the teflon/silcone which should give it a smoother movement in the parts. Lithium is still grease and can build up in areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmos Posted June 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 Jimmer, Is this good enough: http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/4/Auto/3/AutoFluidsChemicals/LubricantsPenetrants/PRD~0381589P/Dupont+Teflon+Dry-Film+Lube%2C+284+g.jsp?locale=en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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