Pro athletes and taxes NF

[kickingfrog]

I know this has come up a few times here before.

 

Here is an article detailing some of the ways athletes pay taxes. It's not just the players it is the trainers, equipment managers, refs you name it.

 

And just so it is clear this isn't meant to be a "oh those poor pros paying high taxes" (although I do feel for the guys making a regular wage getting their pockets picked).

 

Link to article:

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/business/news/in-world-of-sports-a-slew-of-taxes-just-part-of-the-game-683365/

 

 

 

Sorry the cut and paste is brutal to read.

 

 

 

By Michael Sanserino / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

It's no secret that professional athletes can earn big paychecks.

But in most cities and states they visit, they leave little pieces of them behind.

When the Steelers play in Cleveland, they pay taxes to Ohio and the city of Cleveland. When the Pirates play in San Diego, they pay taxes to California.

Every time Ray Lewis played at Heinz Field, he paid Pennsylvania and the city of Pittsburgh. In fact, throughout his career, Mr. Lewis contributed $18,720 to the city's coffers -- probably not enough for No. 52 to buy fans in the Steel City.

These nonresident athlete taxes -- seldom collected 20 years ago -- are now significant sources of revenue for municipalities and states and can cause serious headaches for entertainers, athletes and accountants at tax time.

PG graphic: How a Steeler is taxed
(Click image for larger version)

But while a few extra filings this time of the year is a small price to pay for salaries that can soar well into the millions, it's not just the athletes who are stuck with a complicated tax bill. Any employee who travels with the team, which includes coaches, broadcasters, equipment managers and scouts, are subject to the same tax requirements.

By the middle of the season, an employee's pay stub can't be contained on one page because of all the tax withholding from around the country.

"For equipment managers, staff members, umpires, it's probably more of a burden because they don't have as substantial pay as the athletes, but they have just as equally complex tax situations when it comes to multistate and city filings," said Andrew Wilson, senior tax analyst in the Tax Institute at H&R Block.

Among the number of returns Pirates broadcaster Tim Neverett filed this year is one for Colorado that will earn him a $3 refund, far short of the money it will cost him to file in the state.

"Everybody gets hit," he said.

Of the 24 states that house professional sports teams, 20 collect income tax on their home and visiting teams. And nearly a dozen cities, including Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Cleveland and Cincinnati, impose "jock taxes" and fees on teams and players to address budget shortfalls and to help pay for arenas and stadiums built with the taxpayers' wallet.

In Pittsburgh, where a Non-Resident Sports Facility Usage Fee was imposed in 2005, athletes and entertainers pour in an average of $3.7 million annually with a 3 percent fee on all income earned while performing in any venue built or maintained with public money. The teams pay the city directly and withhold the fee from their employees' paychecks.

"It's pretty successful," said city treasurer Margaret Lanier. "The city's always looking for ways to generate revenue."

And with jock taxes, cities and states can generate revenue without taxing their electorate. The Pittsburgh usage fee does not apply to any full-time city resident.

"It can be pretty crazy," said Pirates first baseman Garrett Jones. "I think every ballplayer's tax guy's brain locks up because of all the different states and all the paperwork we've got to have."

Most states that collect income tax long had provisions for nonresidents who earn money while working in those states. But it wasn't until 1991, when the state of California sent tax bills to Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls after they beat the Los Angeles Lakers in the NBA Finals, that states began enforcing those laws on high-profile and high-income earners.

Later that year, the Illinois legislature passed a law, later dubbed "Michael Jordan's Revenge," that taxed visiting teams from California. Soon after, every state that collected income tax enforced its nonresident laws on professional sports teams.

"The fundamental underlying law for these cities and states is: If you work here, you earn here, you pay here," Mr. Wilson said, meaning anybody who works outside of their state of residency should also pay nonresident taxes. But it is much easier, and much more lucrative, for states to enforce these laws on entertainers and sports franchises because it is easy to determine where these athletes play and how much they earn.

The Tax Foundation, a pro-business think tank, and Americans for Tax Reform, a taxpayer advocacy group, oppose jock taxes and what they believe is a selective enforcement of nonresident taxes on athletes and entertainers.

The National Football League Players Association agrees.

"Our view of nonresident taxation of athletes is that they unfairly treat players differently than others who are in that jurisdiction," said NFLPA communications director Carl Francis. "They do not tax other supposedly high income earners the same way."

While many athletes take up permanent residence in states that don't collect income tax, such as Florida, Tennessee and Texas, that does not prevent a player from being taxed on his team salary. It could, though, save the player from paying taxes on endorsement deals.

Most states give credit for taxes paid elsewhere, meaning Pennsylvania loses revenue when the Penguins play in Buffalo but makes it up when the Sabres visit Consol Energy Center. The method to figure out who owes what differs in each state and municipality. While the majority of cities and states use "duty days," a measure of the total days worked in a season, as a method for determining a person's tax liability, some use game days.

What results is a tricky tax formula that is all but impossible for athletes to decipher on their own. Most athletes use accountants through their sports agencies, while individuals turn to tax experts to file.

"Even for me as a CPA, I don't feel comfortable doing our personal taxes because there are so many cities and so many states we have to file for," said Mary Catherine Melancon, who worked in auditing and is the wife of Pirates reliever Mark Melancon.

Athletes, entertainers and support staff receive dozens of W-2s in the mail each year, and the stack of tax returns for dozens of states is as thick as a phone book.

"It just seems like there could be an easier way to do it," said Mr. Melancon, now playing in his fifth major league season. "But what do I know?"

Michael Sanserino: [email protected], 412-263-1722 or on Twitter @msanserino.
First Published April 14, 2013 12:00 am

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/business/news/in-world-of-sports-a-slew-of-taxes-just-part-of-the-game-683365/#ixzz2QS3j8zIU

[irishfield]

So they only lose 41%.... man, what a deal!

 

 

As someone that has handed over about 51.8 % of my income, to our great government, since I was 25 years old..... I shed no tears (well on their behalf anyhow!)

[captpierre]

very interesting.

 

Health care. Athlete premiums likely pretty high.

 

Disability insurance.

 

Life insurance.

 

Hardly enough left to buy that Ferrari

[Tim Mills]

Very interesting I had no idea. If its confusing for a CPA imagine how confusing it is for the atheletes. Probably another contributing factor as to why so many pro atheletes go broke within 5 yrs of retirement.

[Tayzak15]

DOn't forget to read the entire article here people. Sure the players can afford the tax (which is still unfair considering when they travel they generate revenue for opposing teams stadiums) but this also effects trainers, equipment managers, everyone involved with the team also making not too much of a salary. Just another example to show the bloodsucking thieves our government really is.

[irishfield]

Probably another contributing factor as to why so many pro atheletes go broke within 5 yrs of retirement.

 

No they go broke.. because the generally start with minimal money and one day suddenly get handed a golden egg. Then they eat every omlette they can get out of that egg and forget to save some for later years when life returns to reality.

 

The training staff and "gophers" that are generally underpaid... they're the only sad part of the story.

Edited April 14, 2013 by irishfield

[Tayzak15]

No they go broke.. because the generally start with minimal money and one day suddenly get handed a golden egg. Then they eat every omlettes they can get out of that egg and forget to save some for later years when life returns to reality.

 

The training staff and "gophers" that are generally underpaid... they're the only sad part of the story.

Actually they go broke for a lot of reasons, some get scammed into risky investments, have corrupt agents ect. Sure there are the ones that blow it all away buying houses, cars ect, but it is unfair to throw them all into that 1 category. I know a lot of people hat eon the amount of money a professional athletes makes, but you know what? they had to work their ass off to make it there and they deserve every penny they make.

[irishfield]

Old people, every day people... get scammed into risky investments etc. It's not limited to pro athletes that aren't the only ones that don't do their homework.

 

As for a hate on for the amount of money they make.. go back to my first post on this thread and give that some thought.

[Tayzak15]

Old people, every day people... get scammed into risky investments etc. It's not limited to pro athletes that aren't the only ones that don't do their homework.

 

As for a hate on for the amount of money they make.. go back to my first post on this thread and give that some thought.

I wasn't targeting you, and I know people get scammed into investments every day and a lot of people go broke everyday. Usually professional athletes are big targets for these scams. So lets just go back to the point of this thread ignore what each of our tax rates actually are and focus on the point of this thread which is about the tax in general. Personally I think its robbery. without these teams travelling to play in the arenas there would be hardly any revenue to generate. People don't pay to see their home team practice, they pay to see them compete against rival teams. The idea of taxing these teams which is virtually generating revenue for the arena is beyond absurd, but doesn't surprise me one bit coming from the government(aka thieves).