Daplumma Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 That is possible,must be a pretty big hole.Makes sense to me now. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handlebarz Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 We have a Co detector and it has never went off maybe because its a outside unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daplumma Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 The house fan is blowing the co2 back out from wherever the make up air comes from.I have never seen a hole big enough to cause a roll out but it is possible for sure. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handlebarz Posted February 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope I am home when he gets here to fix it later in the week so I can check it out and will take a pic at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdelongchamp Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Just so you know, Trane makes a nice furnace and they usually have a 10 yr parts and service warranty on the entire furnace. All you have to do is have it serviced once a year. If you go with a unionized outfit or someone contracted out by Union Energy it will be more expensive. But make sure you go with a Trane qualified serviceman. I dont touch my furnace and I dont worry about it either. I pay about 75.00 for an annual inspection. A unionized outfit or one contracted by Union Energy charges almost two hundred if not more. I would avoid Lennox furnaces because the exchanger usually goes in three or less years and it very expensive to replace even under warranty. I speak from experience as a property manager with a portfolio of over 100 scattered units throughout my home town. We had approx. 8 Rudd furnaces in our portfolio. We also had three new Lennox furnaces. All developed holes in the exchangers within three years. PM me if you want stories about windows and window installers or roofs and roof installers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twocoda Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 ive bought Trane Lennox Keeprite Ruud but from here on out ...best warranty and product is Tappan imo for todays market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 good to hear that you found tha cause Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I have a Lennox Pulse furnace. It is sneaking up on 25 years old. The only thing I have ever needed to do on it was a blower motor. My parents had one as well and the heat exchanger finally had gone on it, but it was a year or two older than mine. His was still under warranty and they honored it. Pretty good I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Just so you know, Trane makes a nice furnace and they usually have a 10 yr parts and service warranty on the entire furnace. All you have to do is have it serviced once a year. If you go with a unionized outfit or someone contracted out by Union Energy it will be more expensive. But make sure you go with a Trane qualified serviceman. I dont touch my furnace and I dont worry about it either. I pay about 75.00 for an annual inspection. A unionized outfit or one contracted by Union Energy charges almost two hundred if not more. I would avoid Lennox furnaces because the exchanger usually goes in three or less years and it very expensive to replace even under warranty. I speak from experience as a property manager with a portfolio of over 100 scattered units throughout my home town. We had approx. 8 Rudd furnaces in our portfolio. We also had three new Lennox furnaces. All developed holes in the exchangers within three years. PM me if you want stories about windows and window installers or roofs and roof installers. I wouldn't go so far about saying that about lennox, I work for a lennox dealer and am the service man for the company. I have yet to see a heat exchanger with a crack in it and I service tonnes!!! Rudd is alright, I like servicing the Keeprites or any of the ICP products due to the fact that the majority of parts are able to be replaced with universal parts, such as hsi, flame sensor and roll out switches. Get your furnace inspected every year, a $75 inspection won't cover having the heat exchanger looked at, or the venting, it is basically a touch and feel type inspection, coveing all the safeties. Trane is a good name as well, we deal in American Standard as well, which is a trane product as well. but a lot less in price. I would definately ask to see the hole in the heat exchanger as causing it to "roll out" the flame the hole owuld have to be substantial. and if there is no hole then DO NOT pay to have them replace it. It is there mistake. You can even goes as far as having them smoke bomb it to check, but usually holes are found when it heats up. Any questions please feel free to ask me. Denis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I have a Lennox Pulse furnace. It is sneaking up on 25 years old.The only thing I have ever needed to do on it was a blower motor. My parents had one as well and the heat exchanger finally had gone on it, but it was a year or two older than mine. His was still under warranty and they honored it. Pretty good I would say. Thos are monsters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 Thos are monsters! Monsters? In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 (edited) the weight of them with the old cast heat exchangers, we had to get one out of a crawlspace 2 weeks ago, had to cut it on pieces in order to get it out. but man did they work well, never seen one that didn't work yet, changed a few blowers, but the only reason they were coming out was the tax credit Edited February 2, 2010 by Tinman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 I hope there are a few more years in mine. They advertised at the time they were 99% efficient. I believe it. Cut my heating costs to 25% of what the previous oil hog was. It was quite a lot more money at the time but it was a great investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 they are basicly tanks, a few parts go, but you can't kill em! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daplumma Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Lennox used to be Cadillac units for sure,they used TXV's on their heat pumps and ac when everyone else was using fixed orifices.The Pulse was a big dog unit and tank tuff.I dont know what their stuff is like now as I have been out of the trade for a while,exept for my own and a few family and friends.I'm with tinbanger on that exchnger having a hole.It would have to be a monster of a hole to roll out like that. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 So what happened bud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Hey Tinman, What is the make ARCOAIRE like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted February 6, 2010 Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 (edited) Arcoaire is built by ICP, which also builds Keeprite products. I like them because the parts are easier to get and not nessesarily proprietary to the furnace, u can use some universal parts on them, Which means cheaper and faster repairs! compare these: http://www.arcoaire.com/products/vs95.html http://www.keeprite.com/products/vs95.html Edited February 6, 2010 by Tinman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handlebarz Posted February 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Back order for 10 days they say it should be here for Wensday LOL I hope so. Maybe I will get luck and for my trouble they will cover the repair man cost LOL again. Will see how things go this week as for now we still have the heaters going to bad we have a new energy meeter I can not watch the thing spin out of control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Thanks Tinman. You still got heat Mike? Or are you running space heaters to make do for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handlebarz Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 just heaters they are doing good for now I think were lucky and have warm weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 Whats the part thats on order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handlebarz Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 heat exchanger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 were they able to show you the hole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handlebarz Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 they have not been back yet I hope for Wensday to have it fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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