To Big mac Joey Cudz , its as green here as green gets here when it comes to me and fishing . ???????? slammers,white spinner baits,top water lures , tube jigs , texas rigs , jerk baits ??????? all new stuff to me but don't be quick to give up here , i am living proof of the fast learner and in a bit of time i'll shine and share it back with each and every one . It dose'nt matter to me about all the differant opions that will show up on this thread , i've learnt in my life that you can learn some thing from just about every person you talk to and what i can make from that when i put it all together . All ready with the last three post there is so much good information to get soaked in and i hope it keeps coming by others here as well , am not wanting any one to give up thier secrets by no means , just share the basics with me and for others to see as well on here who are just getting started . I know there is a wealth knowlage right here on this board and if a book was ever wrote taking from here it would be the number one seller around the world . The only thing i ever fished for were perch , i grew up on the banks of the St Lawrence River and as kids we were all taught to fish for theaes babies , even tho i never fished much in my life i knew every thing there was to know about perch fishing and for me to share with others right here and now the best thing that worked down home and is working for me on Lake Simcoe is a perch set up with the green ball , its the only thing i use . I thank each one of you for posting on my thread and please keep it coming , i love it and can't get enough and trust me i well learn what your saying as well as all the other new fisher people here hidding in the wings wanting to know and learn as well .