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agree on the wet sanding, if you want to try and do this, post a pic to see how bad it really is but starting with say an 800g wet to a 1500 wet should clean most of the haze up, then forget the cheap buffers go get a high speed buffer and use the products the last guy said, make sure you understand EVERY process you can do it your self but at the same time you can destroy it too

Wayne I have one in my moms house thats pretty much ready to come out its about 18 months old and was barely used PM me if you wish

under 5.2 is fine to keep on the driveway\

beacuse of how parts of yyour property are classified, I told the bylaw idiot ok I ll park all but 5m in my garage and was told by thier legals I cant its an interpretation but it meant going to court.......building an extension and making it a man cave seemed like a better option

pretty simple rule thats generally in all by laws in the province of Ontario any trailerable object more then 5.2 m in length can only remain on your dirveway for no more then 72 hrs per calander month. An RV that is driveable can remain on the driveway regardless of size ( as I was explained In mississiauga) I had the call on my 6.5 m boat and now have a 10k extension of the garage to house it in the works.... I know who complained and they will get thier just desserts

pretty much one of the funniest threads I have read in a while thanks for the chuckle mike

Craig Im real curious on the new Gm power plant, Aluminum block and all cant wait to hear your opinion on it

opps sorry if my prior post lead to some heated dialogue, that wasnt the intent, I wanted to show a glimpse of the issues surrounding the Credit and as I said the only issue to access is social, one group wants it one doesnt. Canada Dude please re read my posts in there it explains why and how this ladder would be managed and the reationale behind it.

I and anyone from CRAA is open and willing to talk to other NGO's I have sent that message a dozen times Dave only to get a "piss off" right back at some point when does someone realize there is no hope for compromise Its not cramming an agenda and its really not CRAA who is the up front vocal group on unfettered access of all migratory fish to the cataract This on going vocalism is just shedding light to the true facts, years of political correctness and hoping that the olive branch gets taken I sadly think might be gone, anyhow this is going down a different path if you wiah Dave you can call me any time, maybe you can call TU and Issiac Walton and see if you can broker even a meeting

When I said ruffle feathers I immediately thought of you as I know your passion for those upper Credit fish. AS I said from the initial post this is a social issue and has nothing to do with the science behind it, it has been a 12 year plus effort to compromise, a few years back I approached a senior member of TU and asked if we can have a dialogue on this very matter, maybe I thought that even though we act as advisors to the MNR a unified front on a location of some sort of barrier would solve this issue once and for all. The answer I recieved was short of graphic but none the less it summed up to not in a milion years. In answer to comprimise, how can there be one when a few stakeholders when given the opportunity to provide input as to a location, dont but in fact say that there should be no barrier, craa transfers shouldnt be allowed and stocking level should be dropped or eliminated all together, please answer that Dave, where is the comprimise there. As to the Upper Credit while there is some uniqueness its far from being a stand alone fishery and I think we both can provide several rivers where the Brown fishing is even better, and yes it is an elitists attitude when one wants to protect one fish and a way of fishing for it, over other fish and multiple methods, its about Pro fish, alot of guys want that no kill removed and allow for fish retention, imagine how that would impact things We all know have seen and heard of guys up there intimidating someone who isnt fishing a 4wt, this summer I personally know soemone who went up and fished single plastic eggs, a pink worm and such with float gear, only to have a dent in his car, and 3 very regular guys from there pretty much slide next to him and rip him a new one for his technique, thier comments were " you dont belong here" go to erindale. My parents neighbor a 78 yr old who fished the upper in the 50's took his grandson, they parked at the grange slide down and fished, the boy had a bobber, and a berkley power bait egg sac, off the bridge a few guys ended up tossing rocks in the pool and threatened to call the police due to his angling tactics, of which to old man knew were within his rights, yet another example of the goings on that occur up there, while there are some great guys who fish up there, an equal amount of elitists exist who have said right to my face they would kill and drop in the bush any steelhead parr smolt or mature fish they saw, imagine how I felt hearing that... The best streches of the upper are dominated by 3 or 4 property owners, of which one is so enraged over garbage that thier access might dissapear this year potenitally complete with private security guards enforcing this No access. A decade ago there might have been comprimise, if groupls like TU and Issiac Walton were willing to even talk, these days growing numbers of anglers lake wise and stream wise are more educated and want more fish and with Ontario's biodiversity and sustaniability stratagy the Credit should be wide open allowing all migratory fish to utilize its avaliable habitat the time for status quo is gone, again if brown trout are managed and classified the same as rainbows and we know genetically the browns in the upper and lake are one in the same, lake run browns are allowed there now, why cant rainbows, when someone can answer that Im all ears until then I stand true that its time for a change Of interest in a recent economic valuation of the credit steelhead out ranked in orders of magnitude all other fish, additional access for steelhead provide additional economic opportunities. Something else to ponder in all my years of lifting fish from Streetsville and with all the open invitations to Trout Unlimited and Issiac Walton I have yet to see any member of thier board or executive come to help with transfers< I wonder why

-just ring the doorbell Bill so we can crack a few beers

Let me preface this by saying the below comments no matter how harsh they seem to be are based on fact and yes it might ruffle some feathers but often said the truth hurts -The Credit is a confusing river sometimes when looking at it from an end users perspective. Ok so the managment plan was created some time ago here is a link to the entire document www.craa.on.ca its on the front page. its a bit of a long read but very insightful, the parts regarding species partition are of particular interest and tie to this well the long of the story. when it was created years ago stakeholders, provided input to the MNR on how the resource should be best managed. Then as I said earlier there was really 1 NGO that was pro fish (let the migratories up and let it sort its self out to a point because brook trout always should be protected) but there were many others who wanted no pacific fish in the river to even come close geographically or physically to impede thier ability to catch resident brown trout ona dryfly. It was surrounded by some very big elitist style anglers who regardless of any pro fish approach stood strong that in no way was Joe public going to come to the forks and catch rainbows or god forbid a chinook or coho. In thier minds this would bring an unwanted group ( you know the general public ) to invade thier holy water,and some within these groups lobbied the MNR and others as hard as they could regardless of whats best for fish in general, they wanted to preserve thier special way and method of fishing harsh but there is truth to this. As part of the David and Goliath story back then the 1 NGO wanting stelhead, chinook, coho and brown access got obliterated by other NGO's and some even say that the MNR was so intimidated it even sided with the ones not wanting the Pacifics and the very same Lake Browns up river, it was simple many ( Goliath ) by shear numbers got what they wanted, no pacifics at all. Now some concessions were made a potential barrier, experimental transfers etc, and we have what we have today. Without the supplimental transfers and stocking done by one NGO the rainbow population would be at best 1000 or so, some stocked some strays, we estimate this years run could touple 5 digits all due to the work of select volenteers A few years back John and I approached the mnr to start to transfer Rainbows to a feeder creek and if you followed its success we each year were transferring more and more fish, this year should again be a record amount also based on what we see, bringing me to the point. We are seeing a huge influx of new rainbows some strays of course but many new fish from these transfers, now imagine, currently they have a few km of a few tributaries that they couldnt reach without mans help aka the CRAA lifts, while neither Norval or Streestville are perfect barriers some do slip by but with full access its 70 or 80 km of habitat they can reach, simply put imagine a few football fields of total access, right now they can only access about to the 10 yrs line of the first one, imagine if they could go the distance So you see thats how the story unfolds Right now Atlantics and any Native species can if it could go anywhere in the system, but any introduced fish cant. Hopefully this explains it better and sorry if I ruffled a few feathers

As part of the Credit river Fisheries managment plan, it calls for a barrier for migratory fish which is currently in progress as an environmental assesment co authored by my self and John. This new ladder will currently not service Rainbow Trout and Pacific Salmon, it might in the future but thats up for much discussion. Those proponants of the salmon restoration program who say its going to ruin a fishery can hang up the hat because its that very program that was the catalist for this new ladder The OMNR manages its fisheries under a classification method, Native fish such as Brook trout, red side dace are at top of this list, followed by naturalized fish Brown Trout, Rainbow Trout then the put delay and take fishery of Pacifics then the invasives at the bottom. Brown trout in the upper Credit below the cataract based on a genetics as determined by Ontario's leading fish genetisist are one in the same so now migratory browns are given access to the entire watershed, yet rainbows who have been in the system at the minimum from 1956 ( as per MNR ) are not allowed above Norval other then manual transfers to a feed tributary for no other reason then social. For every single document there is an opposing one and there is no clear scientific proof one way or the other bottom line is some studies that say native brookies out compete exotic salmonids and some that say that say they can't compete. Papers that say steelhead whipe out brookies or browns, or that chinook whipe all others out, etc, etc. There are papers that say Atlantic's displace steelhead, steelhead displace Atlantics, browns displace brookies, brookies displace browns, and brookies displace chinooks. For every study that found X there is a study that found Y. Reports from the north shore of Superior suggest brookies seem to do very well with all the wild Pacifics and have developed a sympbiotic relationship there is no clear path, what is clear is that groups such as Trout Unlimited and Issiac Walton Fly fishing Club have in some cases publically and in many cases behind the scenes tried every single approach to not allow Migratory fish above Norval, in fact one president publically stated that there should be no migratories allowed into the river at all. When this FMP was authored and stakeholders were invited there was 1 pro fish Non Governmental Organization ( NGO ) proponant at that table he was dissected from all angles by groups like TU and Issiac Walton and today we see the current managment philosophy on the Credit, again there is no clear scientific proof as to why rainbows should not have full access to the Credit other then a social one argued by the above groups. There are many who feel that once this managment plan comes for review in 2012 that all migratory fish should be allowed full access right to the cataract, and once we figure out the degree of naurally reproducing chinooks those too should be re classified into the same catagorty as browns and rainbows, and some say have full access to the cataract,two diametrically opposing views, fueled by passsion, and really other then a social reason ( we dont want anything to play with our resident brown fishery)there is no reason to allow this access. On other rivers where brown trout and rainbows intermix there is a grumble that the browns arent taking a dry, with the fry and smolts in the river I might suggest a steelhead patterned streamer Of interest CRAA is also attempting to go a genetic analysis of Credit Brook Trout, as those that fish it for them know many are in the 8 inch range and as full adults are stunted from intermixing from stocked and native animals over the years by MNR, we know where there is potentially an un polluted genetic stream of these fish want to see if we can start the process of restoring the vibrant brook trout to the Credit that once existed.

Finally after yesars of work, countless man hours and more raising a portion of the funds The Norval Fish Ladder on the Credit River is under construction. CRAA has funded over $120,000 in engineering and construction costs through the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation (from the US), CFWIP, SARS and internal fundraising work. MNR covered additional engineering costs directly from the local budget and managed to find funding for the construction phase too! The fishway work began on January 10th, 2011 and should be complete by March 31, 2011. If all goes well, CRAA will be lifting steelhead at Norval for the first time ever. Steelhead will be transferred as usual, as steelhead still do not have open access past Norval. Brown trout (non native gamefish), Atlantic salmon, brook trout, redside dace, American Eel and all other native species will have wide open access to the whole middle watershed to the Niagara Escarpment! Anglers and members are reminded that Norval Dam and the fishway sit on a private farm and are strictly private property. Volunteers will be permitted to help at the new ladder when CRAA is operating to lift fish under controlled access. However there is no public access to the fish ladder for any other reason whatsoever. On a side note MNR i the last few years has spent millions on fish culture with two new facilities ( dorion and Normandale ) this project and much more, sometimes we dont all see the up front working of the mnr but its still there and working on core projects

I dont usually send these around but this one made some sense A Letter to the Prime Minister Dear Mr. Harper: Please find below my suggestion for fixing Canada 's economy. Instead of giving billions of dollars to banks and car companies, that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan: > There are about 20 million people over 50 in the work force. Pay them $1 million apiece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations: > 1) They MUST retire. Twenty million job openings - Unemployment fixed. > 2) They MUST buy a new Canadian CAR. Twenty million cars ordered - Auto Industry fixed. > 3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage - Housing Crisis fixed. > 4) They MUST send their kids to school / college /university - Crime Rate fixed. > 5) Buy $50 of alcohol / tobacco / petrol a week - There's your money back in duty / tax etc. > It can't get any easier than that! Yours truly, Ordinary Joe Canadian > P.S. If more money is needed, have all members of parliament pay back their falsely claimed expenses and second home allowances. If you think this would work, please forward to everyone you know. If not, please disregard.

maybe next year each team tosses some money to a pot and the proceeds can be dontated to the winners charity of choice

Eddie that was enjoyable thanks for the video

sorry to hear this Phil, our prayers are with you

ok Ok I ll bite first, we wanna see pictures lol

my 2010 is rated to tow 5000k it tows my rig with no real problems, navigates hills with no issues, it is a pig on gas big time HTHM I did tow my 18 foot triton with it and while the wheel base is a bit short and yes at high speeds ( 130 or so ) it got squirrly ( 130 was passing another truck ) I had all the fluids changed on a shorter interval and had no issues

I had an 06 no problem ever with the suspension i fact no problem ever with it, a bit small for sure liked it enough I bought a 2010

ohh Craig thanks for your information 2 more weeks of this crud

wait until the cough gets to the rib cage and you pull a muscle.. typical medicine to treat symptoms like you all, but my wife made a chicken soup from scratch and I woke up feeling a bit better today As to the flu shot we here believe that its better to have a strong immune system fight the virus, I see the merit I guess of a flu shot in elderly or immune compromised persons but with so many strains and mutations of a virus they jsut never get it right

glad Im not alone, started as a sore troat last Tuesday and has just gone down hill since, today is dizzy day, I dont remember getting this sick ever!!

day 7 now and Im now where even close to feeling better