mercman

Ok everyone.I think i have all the info i need.Thank you all for you input. Personally, i dont give a dang what you are all using.I don`t even care which brand you find better. Fact is, i own a Bird GPS,which in my opinion is deffective.It is still under warranty so it will be up to humminbird to do the right thing. I will keep you all up to speed on this, so please, lets not get this thread locked up.

Thank you Charles

Hummmm, interesting. I had a small issue/question on my x135, went to customer support, sent the email form, 6 months and 2 follow ups later not even a confirmation of of my questions.

Just for the record, I am an equal opportunity angler.I have an X135 lowrance on the bow of my boat.Its only a finder, but i have no issues with it.I have no issue with the sonar on the hummunbird either, just the GPS. The Lowrance units came from the Brand new Ranger B/B that my brother bought a couple of years ago. He removed them immediately and replaced with humminbird units, and has never had an issue.He has always had humminbird. I had 2 x135 units, one is on my boat, and last year 4x4bassin was looking for a sonar, and i gave him one n/c. I dont need to know which one is best, my decision on brand has already been made.I believe my unit is defective,and just needed some info, and your opinion regarding thier response. Thanks

Musky !!!! Love those toothy buggers.I hope to do more hunting for them before ice in, and next year too. Congrats on your PB

Nice Mike !! No matter how big they are, Musky's are beautiful fish.

Thanks for that Art. I like my stuff to work properly.It allows me to put faith and trust in them.If the issue i am having is "Normal" then i will accept it and get on with life. If its not.....then huminbird will have no choice but to fix it. And believe me, they Will fix it. Paul

Well if what i am seeing here is true, it makes no differance at all what brand you buy, they are all innacurate.The technology is innacurate, period. Mine works fine too Roy.If it is a defective unit,i want it fixed. If its a problem that Humminbird is aware of, i want it fixed.If they do nothing i will take my propane torch and turn it into a door stop and buy a lowrance.Simple. In answer to GBG, here are a few.Just type 'Problems with Lowrance" into google, and get with the program bud. Both companies have thier share of problems.Whether you agree or not is neither here nor there The unit powers itself up when the boat is in storage or parked in the driveway. The backlight display is constantly turning on and off. It's like looking at a strobe. Lots of problems with lowrance transducers not being able to hold bottom at speeds much over 25mph. Sending back to Lowrance my third LGC-3000 antennal that has gone bad on my Globalmap 7300 HD GPS unit. Exactly the same symptoms: the unit works fine for a while, then, when powered up cannot find its location.

thats the best for sure

Ok, With all this new to me info, i can see how GPS in your car is great for getting you to a destination or finding gas stations and restaurants. But why do we even bother getting GPS on our boat if the accuracy level is so far off, that it is basically usless???? If the accuracy is so bad, then we really cant follow a depth contour,we could be 20-30feet off in either direction. We cant use it to navigate waters and avoid shallow areas, and we cant use it to troll acurately at a given speed. Why spend hundreds of dollars on naveonics cards if the machine we put them in, cant accuratley use the info on them I am so depressed now

Exactly.We aren't rocket scientists.All we want is a safe accurate way to tell us where we are,where we are going,how to get back home, and how fast we are going. My automobile GPS is more accurate than my 587. both have internal antenna.I expected my Humminbird to be at least as accurate. At least when the car is parked, it says 0mph

Bingo.....exactly the same thing here too. I will keep you all posted on what Humminbird is doing to resolve this issue.

I hear ya. Securely anchored on the water, same issue. Speed on boat speedometer indicates a faster speed than GPS, and my Bro, paced me in is Bass boat, and i was going faster than my GPS indicated.1-2 mph faster.

Good point Art. I can live with the positioning thing.I can always set the map offset for each body of water i visit, but the speed issue is whats bothering me.When my boat is anchored or parked, it should be showing 0mph, not .8 to 2.6mph, and fluctuating this speed.If i want to precision troll for walleye for example, how do i know what speed i am doing? Paul

here is the email from the service center Paul, I got your unit in, I will have to replace the card reader and everything should be ready by next Thursday.Re: GPS reading, the new software update might help, but Humminbird are aware of this problem and consider this within the normal operating parameters of this unit, the only thing that can fix this problem for sure is using an external antenna. Regards,GaryFISHNTECH btw the software has been updated twice, so it si the latest

Their local service center was excellent to deal with.The unit was a demo at Sail,(full warranty) and had a card reader problem.They will be replaceing the reader under warranty, but to resolve the GPS problem, they want me to buy an external antenna for 160 bucks. I dont want this to turn into a Lowrance/Humminbird thread.Both are good units, and both have lots of problems. For sonar/gps owners in general.Would this answer from the maker of your unit be an acceptable solution for the issue?

Bought a 587ciHD Sonar/GPS combo last January.Installed it on my new boat in april, and in my driveway, the unit was reading .8 to 2.3 MPH And that was fluctuating up and down.Also, when on the water near land, it would put my location on the land mass rather than on the water Now i know at 510.00, its not the most expensive unit available, but would you accept this answer from them, concerning the issue? "Humminbird are aware of this problem and consider this within the normal operating parameters of this unit, " I underlined the word problem. So, accept this answer, or push the issue with them? What do you all think i should do

I thought about saying that, but wouldnt dare

You wont refret it Lew. keep a regular vest in your boat if you can.That way, you can take the inflatable off if it gets "Scratchy"

Yup, since BPS and Sail opened, They have had to adapt, and change the way the service thier customers.I find the store staff are very helpful and thier prices some of the best around. How do you like the feel of the new vest Lew?

I was there 3 years ago.Just before i got back into fishing.If i go again, i will defiantely bring a rod and reel. Lake Mead has a phenomenal fishery also.

Dang !!!! Huge Beasts for sure.Kinda look like toothy torpedos

weekend packages to Las Vegas are dirt cheap Dana, then book a hummer tour of the Canyon from there(2 hours away).It will change your soul.

Musta been real pretty runnin down the highway with little "warts" all over your tire walls