Big Cliff

Well, now I know what I need to do infront of my dock this summer to get a full supply of tackle for next year.... oh wait, most of it would be my own

The way an animal is treated in life and the way it is dispatched. If you ever worked on any kind of farm where the goal was to produce as much meat as you could in the shortest amount of time and then slaughter it with little or no reguard for the animal you'd understand UNehtical very quickly. Chickens and pigs are two of the worst treated; shocked, beaten, draged, kicked, limbs and ribs broken and in some cases dumped into vats of boiling water while they are still alive. I usually only deal with a local slaughter house, I know their standards and the people on a first name basis. I also know the farms where most of their meat comes from and I prefer to deal with local farmers when ever I can. Sometimes it costs me a little more per pound than I could have bought it from one of the big chain stores. I am willing to pay that for the knowledge that it came from farms where the animal was treated with respect and made to suffer as little as possible prior and during the slaughtering process. I follow the same practice when fishing or hunting, fish for the table are dispatched as quickly as reasonable game is never allowed to suffer un necessarly.

I hope they find that tow truck driver and throw the book at him! There is no excuse for leaving someone laying at the side of the road to die!

Actually his mom called me "sir", now I know where he gets his manners from! They just don't malke them like that anymore!

Christopher k came by today for a visit and I have to say it was a total pleasure to finally get to meet him. I was also impressed that his mom came for the drive with him, turns out she grew up in Lindsay, not many parents today take the time to see what their kids are up to but she did! Looking forward to seeing more of both of them!

The say that god never gives us more to handle than what we can deal with but sometimes I wonder. Good thoughts and prayers for all of you!

Fiddleheads and leeks soon to be nature's bounty! The asparagus should be soon popping up, that is always enjoyable.

OMG, just pass me another plate and stand back!!!!!!!

That is $60,000.00 a year, not a month but non the less, more than any of us on this board could ever hope to deal with out of our own pockets. As for charity, you are right, not my thing unless I have given everything I have first and there was no other way. We will hope it doesn't come to that, my son is talking with the Trillium Foundation to see if there is some way they can help, I guess that is charity of a sort but it is what they do and it is based on your financial situation. The company he is working for have been wonderful and have promissed to hold his job until he is able to return to work, that alone took a big load off his mind. He has also been told that if he contacts the drug manufacturer they might offer to provide the medication at a reduced price on compassionate grounds. The kid is only 43 years old and has always been a hard worker, paid his bills and raised a family, sometimes bad things happen to good people! We'll get through it, that's just what we do!

Thanks, he is looking into that right now, he just got back out of the hospital on Friday so he is going to see if/what help is available. We can cover it for a while but this would be an on going thing.

I too have managed to do a little saving over the years too Steve or we would be living in a little one bedroom apartment somewhere and still couldn't survive on my pensions. You also know me well enough to know that I respect your opinion just as I know you respect mine! Did not think you were disagreeing with me at all Lew! You, I, and many others on this board would give up everything we own if our family needed it! Well, even with the subsidy I could not afford to live without working but because I do work, I don't qualify for the subsidy LOL. Thanks for the info though.

Well Lew, what are the choices? You do what ever you have to do to take care of your family just as I know you would!

So, lets take a poll; How many people on this board alone worked hard most of their life then had the company they worked for go bankrupt leaving them with little or no pension? How many people ran their own business but because of market conditions (the Target failure comes to mind) ending up having to use all of their savings just to make sure their employees didn't hurt too much? How many people had medical poop happen in their lives that destroyed their savings? My own son needs a medication that is going to cost $60,000.00 a year and it isn't covered by OHIP. Where do you think that money is going to come from? My daughter has Non Hodgkins Lymphoma, ya, like she is going to have an opportunity to save for her retirement if she ever gets there! My wife has heart issues and has had to go through a really rough time, an ICD/pacemaker implant that didn't go so well, multipul trips to the hospital, Dr.'s offices, and clinics. Sure the treatments and surgery are covered by OHIP but the $20.00 a visit and the 200+ km trips, the time I have to take off work, none of those are coveredI I think I am reasonably smart but how do you think I should have ben able to forsee all of these costs and plan for them! If however you are a politician and serve just two terms you get a full pension for life, extended medical and dental benifits.....(I am also paying for that) No, I have watched the government piss my money up against the wall while they fill their own pockets, I've listened to them lie then tell more lies to cover up the lies. I am happy for those of you that have had things go well in your lives, that haven't lost jobs through no fault of your own, that haven't been sick or had someone close to you get sick, who's pension plans have been well managed and you can retire with a cushy pension. Good on you but don't look down on those of us who have worked just as hard but have been handed challanges you probably can't even understand. Oh, and when I do look in the mirror every morning I see a tired old man who has been working for the last 55 years to take care of his family, pay his taxes, contributed to CPP and not be a burden on socity and for that I get to collect the whopping sum of just over $1000.00 a month. Lets see; 8 years in politics = $12,000.00 a month in pensions +, 55 years of working hard everyday = $1000.00 a month in pensions.

What about all the money I contributed to CPP all these years? If that money had been invested responsibly I wouldn't have to work just to keep a roof over my head today. I am more than willing to bet that 20 years from now that all you younger guys will be in the same boat and they will come up with a "new" pension plan so you can have enough to live on in your final years. I'm also willing to bet that Whinnie the POO and her cronies won't be worring about where their next meal will be coming from!

Ok, the idea of my post was to find out if seniors were finally going to get a break but I guess that was just too much to hope for. I was born here, lived and worked here all my life, served my country, paid taxes, and contributed to the CPP since it's inception. I am now 69 years old and couldn't possibly live on the combined Old Age Security and CPP combined. Now I have worked since I was 16, always paid my taxes, never drew welfare, but I look at our politicians and see that they only have to serve two terms and they get a penson for life that is at least 4 to 5 times what I get a month (probably more). Why/how do they get away with this? Two years ago I watched some friends that had to decide between eating or keeping from freezing. Some had to use their credit cards to get them through the winter, our politicians squander billions and go "oh well"!

Well, when I figure out what I contributed to CPP all these years (and I still do BTW) If I live to 250 I might get back everything I contributed. Funny how they keep talking about the CPP running out of money but they never talk about their pensions running out.

Does anyone understand how this is going to work? Will it affect people like myself that already collect CPP and Old Age Security? Will it work like the CPP and be based on how much you contributed? Will everyone be entitled to it even if you haven't contributed? Will it be based on your current income? Any idea of how much extra it might contribute to our pension income? I currently get just under $1200.00 a month combined CPP and old age security. What does a single mother living on welfare get? (I'm not trying to start a fight about it, I'm just curious)

Well lets see, we sold off the 407, what is that costing us in revenue every year? What is it going to cost you and I if we sell off hydro so that Whinnie the Poo can try to make herself look good. (nothing will do that IMHO) The reason hydro costs are so high is because of poor management, stupid high wages and by out packages. The reason we are in such a financial mess is because there is no accountability, politicians lie to get elected, lie while they are in power and set themselves and their buddies up for life at our expense and never have to worry about getting caught, they just tell more lies!

That would have been my choice too Doug however our friends brought over a rather nice bottle of dry white wine and it suited the meal perfectly.

No, but the X on the side of his pontoon marking the fish should be right where he left it!

Wouldn't even consider anyone else Simon, gives "customer service" a whole new level of meaning! Truth, honesty, integrity!

Just added it to my recipe book, it sounds fantastic!!!!

Just tried to send you a PM but got an error message saying that you couldn't receive any new messages. PM me your email please.

What really bothered me was that she is 84 years old and away from her house getting cancer treatments! It's not like she was off enjoying a vacation on some beach somewhere and just didn't give a darn. Have a heart for crying out loud! I might be wrong but it is my understanding that Grey Power specializes in insuring seniors, I would expect that there should be some protection for the customers and that full disclosure of exclusions should be manditory not burried somewhere in the fine print. I am very lucky, I have a very good friend that takes care of our insurance needs and I trust her implicitly! She was very thorough in explaining limitations and exclusions to us and suggesting limits of coverage when we signed up with her and it turned out that we got better coverage and saved money from our previous insurer. Sorry for the rant but it really bothers me when I see anyone being taken advantage of.

True Roy but my thoughts here are; how many other seniors do get caught in things like this and don't have the news get involved and don't have a fair settlement. When the news called Grey Power and asked about water damage they were not told of any exclusions until they specifically asked about frozen pipes.