belippy Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 Canon 24-70mm f/4 IS. price is $1650+tax abit pricey. but very light 600g!!
BillM Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 That's a lot of $$$$ for that lens seeing that it's f4. The 24-70 f2.8 L is still the way to go in that price range (used of course).. I think I'm going to pick up a EF-S 17-55mm for my 60D.. So many lenses, so many decisions! LOL
Gerritt Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) what do all these crazy numbers mean? I am in the market for a telephoto and am wanting to figure it out before I spend the $$ thanks guys G edit to add.... this is the Lens I am looking at... http://www.canonlenses.ca/Get-close-from-a-distance/EF-70-300mm-f-4-56-IS-USM for my Canon Rebel XS Edited December 4, 2012 by Gerritt
ctranter Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 It's light because it's only an f4. A lot less glass is needed to correct the focus of light within the lens because the lens is letting much less light into the sensor than a faster lens. If weight is more important than having a very fast lens, and you prefer to buy new, then go for it. For me, I would keep my eye on kijiji until I found a very slightly used (indistinguishable from a new lens) 24-70 f2.8 L for a good price, and then buy that instead... but then again weight is one of the last things that I worry about when shopping for a new lens. If you are shooting mostly outdoors or in well-lit indoors, f4 should be fine, but I love very shallow depth-of-field shots that can be taken with a lens with a fast aperture.
BillM Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 (edited) what do all these crazy numbers mean? I am in the market for a telephoto and am wanting to figure it out before I spend the $$ thanks guys G edit to add.... this is the Lens I am looking at... http://www.canonlenses.ca/Get-close-from-a-distance/EF-70-300mm-f-4-56-IS-USM for my Canon Rebel XS That's not a bad lens, but the best bang for the buck telephoto Canon offers is the EF 70-200mm f4 L... I've got one, it's absolutely outstanding for the price. http://www.canonlenses.ca/Get-close-from-a-distance/EF_70-200mm_f4L_USM Edited December 4, 2012 by BillM
Gerritt Posted December 4, 2012 Report Posted December 4, 2012 Not sure of the difference Bill..., other then Zoom factor.... what would the difference be between a 200mm and a 300mm in terms of an object lets say 20' away? I am at a complete loss here... as to what all these numbers mean...but I do know my 18-55mm is not cutting the job by a long shot... what makes one lens better then another? G
belippy Posted December 5, 2012 Author Report Posted December 5, 2012 It's light because it's only an f4. A lot less glass is needed to correct the focus of light within the lens because the lens is letting much less light into the sensor than a faster lens. If weight is more important than having a very fast lens, and you prefer to buy new, then go for it. For me, I would keep my eye on kijiji until I found a very slightly used (indistinguishable from a new lens) 24-70 f2.8 L for a good price, and then buy that instead... but then again weight is one of the last things that I worry about when shopping for a new lens. If you are shooting mostly outdoors or in well-lit indoors, f4 should be fine, but I love very shallow depth-of-field shots that can be taken with a lens with a fast aperture. Almost all my lenses are prime lens 14mm 2.8 II, 50mm 1.2, 85mm 1.2 II, 100mm 2.8 IS, 135mm f/2 and just bought a 70-200 2.8mm IS II and this thing is heavy. That is one reason why I want a light weight zoom lens. I need to find a walk arround lens for my (coming up) caribbean trips. Mostly outdoor, so f/4 should be good enough? I think. 24-70mm 2.8 II is my second choice, but gosh $2500... the first generation 24-70mm 2.8 is like 970g, almost double the weight of the 24-70 f/4 and has no IS. $1650 should be reasonable.
BillM Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 Are you shooting FF or a crop body? Might want to look into the EF-S 17-55mm if on a crop body. The 24-70mm f2.8 ver1 doesn't need IS.. I only find it useful on really long telephotos (100-400mm for example). No need for it on my 70-200 f4L 95% of the time.
ctranter Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 Almost all my lenses are prime lens 14mm 2.8 II, 50mm 1.2, 85mm 1.2 II, 100mm 2.8 IS, 135mm f/2 and just bought a 70-200 2.8mm IS II and this thing is heavy. That is one reason why I want a light weight zoom lens. I need to find a walk arround lens for my (coming up) caribbean trips. Mostly outdoor, so f/4 should be good enough? I think. 24-70mm 2.8 II is my second choice, but gosh $2500... the first generation 24-70mm 2.8 is like 970g, almost double the weight of the 24-70 f/4 and has no IS. $1650 should be reasonable. Looks like we have a lot of the same gear. I have a 50 1.2 and 70-200 2.8 II as well. The 14mm 2.8 II gets me salivating, though! You could probably find a 24-70 f2.8 II, used, on kijiji for around 1600... as long as you have faith in your own ability to judge that the lens is optically perfect. That would be my first choice as I hate being limited by gear, down the road. For a general vacation lens, many people choose to look into the 24-105 f4 IS. Bill is right in that the IS can be somewhat wasted on non-telephoto lenses, but as far as I'm know it allows you to stop the camera down a bit. You can buy a brand new one online for less than 1000, it's light, and makes a great walk around lens. Bill makes a good point about the full frame vs crop sensor bodies and the difference it can make on lens choice. What body are you shooting on? (the 24-70 2.8 II is still the best choice. period. if you can afford it)
BillM Posted December 5, 2012 Report Posted December 5, 2012 I'd love to go into Henrys and drop the $2500 on the new 24-70mm, lol! But my camera rarely if ever makes me $$$, can't justify a lens like that.
belippy Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Posted December 9, 2012 I have a FF 5dmk2 I had 24-105 before traded it for the 70-200 2.8 IS II I love the 24-70 II but $1000 for 2.8 I rather try the new 24-70 f/4.
BillM Posted December 9, 2012 Report Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) Just a thought, but why not get a used 24-70mm f2.8 ver 1? That's one of the best lenses Canon has ever made.. Usually pick them up used in the $1300 price range. Edited December 9, 2012 by BillM
belippy Posted December 9, 2012 Author Report Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) I found a few on kijiji, $1350 met a few guys...lenses are all beaten up and 970g is a bit heavy for travel 24-105's weight us perfect (I don't have it anymore) 24-70 2.8 II is my frist choice but $2300 and saw this coming soon lens 24-70 IS 4/f for $1650 (might be a very good travel lens) Edited December 9, 2012 by belippy
BillM Posted December 9, 2012 Report Posted December 9, 2012 Yeah, the 24-70mm is a pig for sure. I think that's about it's only downfall.
bullybass Posted December 21, 2012 Report Posted December 21, 2012 what do all these crazy numbers mean? I am in the market for a telephoto and am wanting to figure it out before I spend the $ thanks guys G edit to add.... this is the Lens I am looking at... http://www.canonlens...m-f-4-56-IS-USM for my Canon Rebel XS I think that lens is on sale right now at futureshop for $250 off. I am thinking about it for my XSi http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-canon-ef-70-300mm-f-4-0-5-6is-usm-lens-0345b002/10079240.aspx?path=0591c25b2c233e353db97c2525334380en02
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