Headhunter

ARMAGEDDON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brother, time is a terrible thing to waste! Get a hobby Dan! HH

Never caught one in Port Bruce, but have caught quite a few in the river in Port Burwell. HH

I don't beleive that the carp were being brought into Canada live, to be consumed... now, someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but as I recall, the carp are seen as harbingers of "good luck" to newly married couples and releasing them into the wild is a way of appeasing the "luck gods". So, it's been said that during a wedding ceremony, the lucky couple and the entourage will go to the waters edge and release the carp, hoping that it will bring prosperity to the couple. That's what I heard, but again, as usual, I may be wrong. Perhaps one of our fine memebers here, who have some knowledge of Asian customs, could help here by shedding some light? Regardless, IMHO, if it aint in a can, it shouldn't be allowed into the counrty... there is simply too much risk involved. HH

Good luck finding volunteers to take on that task... the man is not only huge, powerful and possessing a bit of a mean streak, he also practices Olympic style wrestling in the off season with his Czeck buddies... anyone remember the McCabe incident? HH

BB, have him pull a recepticle off the wall and double check how it's wired. I spoke to electrian friend of mine and he told me that checking the recepticles would tell him whether it's really two wire or is actually three wire, with the box grounding out the third. HH

What, no flippin noodles! Your mom makes great noodles, they should be on every plate you have! Congrats on the catch and that plate looks delicious! HH

I agree with much that you have said here... but the rules that must be followed by resorts and in turn, their customers are on a completely difference playing field, than the NFN. We are talking about one group, that is essentially a federal concern and another that is almost entirely a provincial concern. Let's face it, those two distinct groups have a difficult time agreeing on anything, much less a powder keg situation as native rights and historical treaties. Bernie, thanks for the insight into the past, they say that we should, as thinking animals, use the past as a learning tool, but I find that human nature is to only concern ourselves with today... Looking forward to more discussion/input with Crosshair! HH

BB, I can't recall the specifics, but I do recall there being an issue with the previous administration here in Toronto, and their desire to make front lawns not look like parking lots... I beliive that the new council and Mayor, have decided that a drive way is a driveway and that as long as you stay within the boundries of a lawful drive, you can do what you want with it. HH

Calling 311 is a great suggestion... I recall that recently, there have been some changes as to what you can and cannot park on your driveway, unfortunately, I cannot recall specifically what the changes were... HH

Ok Canadadude, I can see that having limited benefit to a small cross section of the Nip region... that being said however, (and of course, I don't have access to the numbers) I wonder how much money those restaurants provide to the region as a whole, in comparison to the large number of resorts and the numbers of secondary support services in the area. *****I just want to make one thing clear here, I am not trying to do anything here, except understand the lay of the land in the area. I have in the past, expressed my personal thoughts on what's happening, but have come to the conclusion that I did not possess the knowledge to make any kind of an informed personal fact based decision. Like most here, I am a "stakeholder" based on my license dollars as well as my tax dollars and recreation dollars. I really do appreciate those who have been constructive in the dicussion, their insight and knowledge and their willingness to share it... I do hope that this discussion stays this way... after all this is a dicussion board and I think we all have some interest in the information being presented. HH

Well, I'm glad you "think" it will bounce back, but if I were a stake holder I wouldn't find much solice in your hope alone. And making comments about "southern Ontarians" is in no way constructive to this discussion. Without those "weekend warriors", the the economics of the region would suffer greatly... but that doesn't seem to be an issue to you... as you seem to have all the fish YOU can use. Based on Crosshair's responses, the ecomomic benefit of NFN is only being shared by NFN, unless I am reading this wrong, which I will admitt, is entirely possible. Again, I am trying to understand this situation and consider us to be fortunate to have people like Crosshairs, in the know and conversing. I guess that if it makes you feel better to bash, then discuss, I can't stop you from doing that. HH

Congrats Peter! You should be sticking your chest out a little bit more these days! HH

So the economic wasteland, left by a lack of tourists and the resulting devistation it will have on the tax base of the area has no bearing on your thoughts? 20 years is a long time to wait, for your revenue stream to return... seems kinda selfish to me! This is why I asked Crosshairs to discuss how the NFN is working with the other stakeholders on the lake. HH

Thanks for your response Crosshairs... I typically don't get on here in the evening, so I am only now, seeing your response... SO, if I have read the above correctly, what you are saying is that NFN is "putting back" by enforcing rules that they themselves have agreed upon as well as spreading the wealth accumulated within the community. With regard to the MNR's approach to Nip... what would you suggest they do that would be in the best interest of all of the lakes stakeholders? It seems to me anyway, that any stocking effort they could put forth, would only result in those fish, being netted for NFN commercial use... with the other stake holders, ie local non Natives and the average "tourist" not necessarily benefiting. Remember, Nip is a shared resource for all citizens to enjoy. Places like this fine fishing board draw an awful lot of traffic, both registered as well as guests... and as more and more people view Nip as a less than desirable location, due to overwhelming fishing pressure, Nip will not their destination of choice. That could result in business that support the tourist trade, failing. And should those businesses fail, it will directly affect the tax base that supports the infrastructure of the area. This leads me to my next question... what relationship does NFN have with the other stakeholders on the lake? Have there been any dicussions about striking a balance between the various stakeholders? I find this topic fascinating and look forward to continued dialogue. HH

Mike, I believe that most if not all of us have the same feelings as you. I know I do. That being said, we have here a person in the know, Crosshairs, who has been good enough to pass along the NFN position and has done so in an articulate and respectful way... I appreciate that and would like to have this discussion continue here, in the same manner. It's obvious to me anyway, that what's happening on Nip isn't going to change. There is no will on any side of this issue, to make/force a change, that won't end up getting really ugly for all sides of the "net", so to speak. Crosshairs, you mentioned earlier that NFN "puts back"... can you please describe what it is that NFN puts back into the fishery? Thanks, HH

Thanks for that explanation Crosshairs... so there are no monetary repercussions? It seems to me that such actions (Netting outside of jurisdiction) could potentially have an ill effect on all stake holders... including the NFN... why not consider confiscation of their tools, to help keep them in line? HH

Quote of the Day... from Jimmy Fallon . . . referring to Prince William's bachelor party: "It's gotta be weird stuffing money into a stripper's bikini when every bill has a photo of your grandmother printed on it." HH

Crosshairs, you seem to have your finger on the pulse of this issue, so please bare with me on this... Hypothetically, lets say, only for discussion's sake, an individual with status is caught by NFN, netting outside of the "rules" suggested by NFN. What are the ramifications, those individuals can expect to face, as a result of their actions? Thanks, HH

I would hardly call the taxes paid by resorts a free ride! Without that tax revenue, there would be hardly any services provided to the area and those who are getting a free ride, would be much worse off then they are. Someone paid for the infrastructure there and I am betting it's the tax base. And that's certainly not the same group who have their own set of rules! HH

BB, the washer runs off of a standard outlet... the dryer requires it's own circuit, breaker and 220 hook up. HH Edit... I would be concerned about a washer that was not grounded (three prong) as water and electricity don't mix well... ok, they really like each other, but do not play well with others.

You can't justify actions on Nip, by comparing it to the Great Lakes or the oceans... for obvious reasons. HH

BB... I just purchased a number of Ground Fault Interupters (GFI) and replaced the existing receptacles (two prong) with them. The theory behind the GFI's was that should a short happen, the GFI's would pop, before the breaker would pop.Knob and tube is two wire that is run discreetly from each other and is run through ceramic "tubes" through joices and attached to whatever, using ceramic "knobs". It is old wiring used in many older homes. HH

BB, I sold a house about 4 years ago, that was 50% three wire grounded and 50% knob and tube. The service had been ugraded, so it was a bigger board then 100amps. In order secure insurance (I know this is not your question) my real estate agent connected me to a house inspector, who was affiliated with an insurance company. In order to get the clearance from the inspector and in turn guarrantee insurance coverage, I was told to change out all of the two pronged recepticles to GFI's. It cost me close to $200.00 to do it myself and the house was certified as being insurable. That made a huge difference to perspective buyers, when they walked through the home and saw the certification on the dinning room table. Upgrading a home to three wire would be extremely cost prohibative... espcially if the house is plaster lathe as opposed to dry wall. And given that almost everything we buy that runs on electricity has the grounding plug, I would be somewhat hesitant to plug anything in, without a GFI. HH

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Helpful and very well thoughtout Doc! Here, we have just now had some info being discussed and you throw that out there... My guess would be that the time you spend on Nip is ZERO! I bet your response would have been different if your family cottage was on Nip, vs the barking you have been doing about your own little piece of paradise being invaded. HH