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If you check out the CTC website, the suit has a patch on it, which looks like the Nautilus logo. BUT... Good luck finding one of the suits in stores, I went today in St Thomas & as usual, they didn't have any...But I got him to check for other stores & absolutely no stores in London/St.Thomas or surrounding area have any in stock whatsoever!!! So if that's not misleading, I don't know what is!!! Thinking about contacting Head office & complaining....how can you have a sale/advertise an item that none of your stores even have??
The computer system the CTC employees use has a lot of inventory info including item receive date, order dates and backorders. So from that they can tell you how many they sold too.
Did the CTC guy say when they were getting them in? Did they give a raincheck?
The flyers are planned in advanced and stock does not always make it in on time.
forrest
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MY SSV did not have the IPS hull and was 10hp from the maximum.All I know is for the amount of money this guy spent to trick out his SSV 18
I came out way ahead by purchasing a Lund 1660 Classic .More storage wider boat more floor space,platform for my bow mount electric motor,sport track system for rod holders and accessories much deeper hull,sheesh the guy still is without a livewell.
BTW Forrest you bought a good boat the SSV is built like a tank.Mine was in Mint condition when I traded it in.
Percher clocked me on the GPS from his boat with 2 people in my boat(SSV 18) plus fishing gear at 31mph thats it thats all.
I completely agree and like your setup better than that one the guy converted. He did it for hobby purposes too and previously his webpage said he might not go through the same labour of love again.
Often I look at your posts and know I will eventually follow the same path that you did SSV first then a Classic type boat. I looked at the classic and thought it was the greatest thing.
My choice for a bare bones hull boiled down to money. The price of a roomier feature full boat is one thing but adding the tow vehicle I would have to buy ended up being too much. It is all about the fun though.
forrest
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Hey.....I wasted a lot of time. duh
This guy did a whole conversion on a IPS hulled SSV-18 and put a 60HP motor on it and tested the speed on the finished boat:
http://www.correllconcepts.com/boat_conversion.htm
forrest
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I have to ask. How did you clock the speed?
And yes I have done more than 50 in a tiller but sooner have a wheel at that speed.
With a light crosswind on a Garmin etrex GPS....maybe Mike has large friends
I did not leave it there long....whats the point....I can enjoy my day without taxing the engine or comfort level.
I guess I will have to kidnap a couple of you guys and throw you in. I don't like cars, fast boats or other fast toys. I do not bull about speed.
forrest
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OK....so from my experience with the ssv-16, 40HP merc 4strk on GPS, with 1100lbs gross weight, 2 guys in the boat, I did 34mph and there was still room on the throttle for more (if I had a higher pitched prop.....hey I had to go fast at least once
So add 150lbs for the SSV-18 setup (with 4 stroke)....consider the HP on the motor is 150% of mine and guess what the speed with be.
50MPH stats:
From the SERVICE MANUAL, the ones a mechanic would use to tear the engine down, that mercury puts the specs in for my 40.....maybe they were testing on aluminum race boats, so see above for my real world no crap experience.
forrest
PS....I gotta ask again...who wants to do 50 in a tiller?
PS....and my bad for not emphatically stating that I have not done 50.
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Family has been in boating since the 1920's. Rigged many a boat myself.
OK...so what is up with the merc manual giving an estimate of top speed of their engine on a 800lb boat being 45-53mph?
Are they completely fabricating the numbers?
forrest
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Sorry Forrest it isn't "all about proper weight/Prop match". It is part of it. The faster you go the more friction is added multiplying the amount of torque/HP required. You cant put a 19" prop on a 5hp and get 50 MPH out of it. There is hull design, horse power, friction and torque in the equation.
If you put too large of a prop on a boat it may or will take the RPM's down below its powerband. It will or can make your boat slower. It can also be hard on your internal engine parts by creating more strain on bearing surfaces. Most manufacturers will give you an RPM range to work with a particular engine. Usually it will be within a 500 rpm range. This is where you want your engine to run when it is wide open with a normal load. A top quality stainless prop is the way to gain performance. Aluminum blades will flex a little at high rpm and you lose a little bit.
Who really wants to do 50mph in a tiller?
Of course the hull has something to do with it but hydrodynamics and aero dynamics is a bit much for the conversation. Throw a top on the boat look out!
Higher weight....drop the pitch.
The lighter the boat the higher the pitch required to result in the same forces on the motor parts. I am not a mechanic but I did good in physics and read the mercury documentation.
.....being more correct by saying it is all about force/pitch/revs just sounds silly.
And an aluminum prop.....thats a choice but it puts extra force on the prop shaft if you hit something doesn't it? And they cost a fortune!
forrest
Where are the mechanics?
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Dug the merc manual out of the garage. From the Merc manual:
Prop: 10", 19 pitch, 3 blades
Boat: Gross weight up to 800lbs
Resulting speed range: 45-53mph.
My total boat weight bare bones: 810lbs
350lbs (hull)
220lbs (engine)
165lbs (me)
50lbs (battery)
25lbs (fuel)
Bare bones ssv-18 add 110lbs + 30lbs for 60HP = 950lbs
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The 30HP merc gives the same top speed at 600lbs so a total guess would be
SSV-18 up to 1200lbs with 60HP motor on it would do 53mph
that is until it flips over backwards
I think I may like hte 40hp in the future but this year 30 would have easily been enough.
I probably could have gotten away with a 30HP and been just as happy or happier for ever....I would have been 45lbs lighter on the transom and not have to be moving my batteries and add weight to the front.
forrest
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Be careful Forrest I asked my dealer about a prop that would give me more top end .It can be done but with risk it can over rev the motor easily
and poof no more motor.My dealer told me that is the risk and he has seen it happen.
50mph from a 16 ft tinny with a 40 .I don't think thats possible unless Roy is driving
The mercury service manual has several pages of specs that relate boat weight, prop size/pitch and motor size (worth the $90):
With over revving Its the other way around. An increased pitch puts a load on the engine, Too low a pitch (slower top end) and your enginre revs out:
Bicycle Analogy on flat land:
Put your bike in the hardest gear, you will get top speed and not rev out.
Put your bike in the easiest gear, you will top early and be reving your poor legs to an accident.
right now my boat is under propped. It will max out at ~34mph without being at full revs or throttle, I need more weight in the boat or a higher pitch prop for the ideal setup.
For that and other reasons I always take it easy at a reasonable 24mph.
BTW....its bad to over prop it too.
Its all about the proper weight/prop match.
forrest
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if i decided on a lund ssv-18 and a 60 horse tiller how fast do u think that bad boy would travel at WOT ?
An SSV-16 with a 40HP motor and one driver will do 50MPH+. Its all in the prop.....certain pitches will top you out at xMPH, doesn't matter what boat it is on.
An SSV-18 with 60 will do?
forrest
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Bombadier is proactive in ensuring Canadians do not purchase in the US.
Bombadier may also require that you bring the vehicle in for an inspection to ensure the recalls for that vehicle are done....part of the $350 I would think.
Things that may help you get around this. Have the seller get the letter for you.
Get the letter from a bombadier office in another country.
forrest
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I think that fish was caught 3 weeks ago.
How about posting the thread you got it from?
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The reviews on the BPS sight would steer me away from it.
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Someone mentioned watching out for a gap at the bail. One of the BPS reels I have ends up getting line between the drag disc adjustment and the spool and ends up wrapping around and around
There are more places to buy online from than BPS and still get a good price.
I know squat about that reel, but, if it is going to be your primary reel get something tried and true.
I paid a big price for my SS Tournament ~20 years ago....still in great shape and never gave me a problem.
Many reel promotions offer an extra spool: I did not care about an extra spool when I bought it but I really want one now.
forrest
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http://www.ontarioparks.com/english/whit-fishing.html: "White Lake is swimming with walleye, northern pike, whitefish and perch" oh...and water (just wanted to confirm earlier post)
Is this the place?
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as far as I know they have to have a ceratin percentage of orange,yellow or red to be approved..my floater is in the van from yesterday and my wife has it at work or I would take a pic and post what it says on the inside label....I will do it after
http://www.tc.gc.ca/marinesafety/debs/obs/..._words.htm#LJ05
PFDs do not require yellow, red or orange....life jackets do. PFDs are good for recreational boating only....that means fishing too I am guessing.
Doesn't matter though....if there is no label there is no label.
forrest
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I don't ever understand why they ruin the reputation of Environment Canada by doing these 3 month forecasts. They are usually so far off base it just destroys their creditability.... I don't remember the summer being blisteringly hot as they claimed it would be.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/06/05/...r-forecast.html
If they said that is what it will be.....who are we to doubt Environment Canada?
OK, my bad. People keep asking their opinion and they give it, so they are wrong 40% of the time, that just means they are right 60%.....it is interesting news for some. Maybe retailers use the info to decide the volume of items they will purchase.
One things for sure, I don't plan my life around it.
forrest
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Hey Sinker,
I'm going to try one on this weekend. Will let you know how it is.
Will you do a favour and jump in the lake with it?
Q&A from videos:
Cost: $300 US.....said about a top and bottom I think.
Approved?: nope.....you need to have an approved flotation device on hand
Will it replace a boat?: Get a large friend....with one of those suits he will be able to hold 2 extra people.
One piece?: only 2 piece were shown in the videos and on the website
Will you get wet if submerged?: yes
forrest
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She is your better half
By chance do you have a large pile of unused purchases?forrest
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Its just a little political storm....nothing much you or I can do about it.....tough it out.....it'll pass quicker if you don't get uptight about it. As for payroll not getting you up and going...well my lips are sealed.
forrest
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Yes, sensible timing on the christmas stuff
downside: as soon as the wife sees it the pressure for the tree will be on
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Hi,
See the news of the monster is all over. I think awesome that he let it go and ... neat to see the release shots.
Can understand why folks would want precise measurements and possibly photos-of, as it is a fish of very significant caliber ... IMO it is over 60 lbs. quite certainly ... but release is release too. The whole idea of the decision is for the fish to survive the experience and thrive. Because of that, more measuring and photo documentation-of in the dark would significantly lengthen the process - and make the decision moot.
I've looked at lots of muskie photos (and lots that didn't seem quite right) ... it would seem to me it is what it is.
Great pic forrest ... love the red neks there too.
Pete
Hi Pete,
LOL
That pic the action angling guy/board member Rich doing some fine acting:
http://www.actionanglingtv.com/
I can think of at least 2 digital camera measurement tools that are relatively new ideas...modify them, test them, market them.....
I know its doable, your a man that could make it happen.With Regards,
Mike
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He wasn't handing YOU the money. If I pulled out a wad of 5000 bucks in bills and you grabbed it from me and started to count it, I'd smack ya in the teeth!
LOL
Don't go around shouting you have $5000 in your pocket....its a sure way to get mugged.
If I was foolish enough to swipe $5000 bucks from you I think i would run before counting. I know what happened to that perch, it only took your bait:
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GCD -- you guys were insinuating htat he was a liar before pics were even posted. Forrest compared it to sasquatch or the loch ness monster and was pretty empathic that this was all fiction.
I also notice that you have a remarkable # of comments that were edited after the fact. Wonder what you edited if you didn't say anything out of line?
Anyway, what you guys have to remember is that this guy never posted any claims that he had caught a world record. He showed pics of a big fish, said it was a great experience, and that he let it go. In fact, they weren't even on the OFC site. He is not making any claims to YOU. If that fisherman (who looks to be me to be completely genuine) reads the comments on this site...what are his opinions of you guys and this site in general? Would he feel welcome? I certainly wouldn't.
Again you distort the facts but thats part of what you do: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
-I compared the rumor of a world record muskie before the pic was posted to that of the sasquatch being found
-I edit a lot of responses immediately after posting to fix mistakes.....not later on to distort an argument. stop speculating with zero facts thats what trolls do.
-thats right...he is not making the claim on this board....he IS making the claim. Someone else is making the claim for them.
-Why would he not feel welcome? No one is calling him a liar......just the catcher of a monster.
forrest
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Go to a Canadian Tire. Ask the clerk to look the item up in their huge marketing binder.....all details will be in there.
forrest