Dutch01

I stood in that lineup yesterday afternoon

I'll likely be there Saturday night too. However, I still think it is a week or two early. We'll see if the cooler temps this week turn on the bite.

I feel it all year too but the fall is especially bad. You gonna meet me at the spot anytime this fall Chris? Send me a PM.....

If you're serious, you win the "most hardcore" award from me!

I just got back, it was stupid busy. I didn't find much of anything over 20% off.....

I definitely can't wait four weeks! I'll die! It's my Son's birthday next weekend so I won't be getting out. After that I'm going hardcore until close on Nov 15th.

That's funny, I've never heard it called that before! I definitely have it. Thanks and you too!

It happens every year. I know it's early yet for my favorite shore spot. It's probably two or three weeks away from catching fire. Every year I resolve to wait until October. And then I feel it. It reminds me of quitting smoking, which I did two weeks ago now. I think "I'm fine, I can do this". And then I feel it. "I can catch up on stuff around the house". I tell myself. Today I thought "It's going to be cold tonight, the fish will be off". And that might be true. But still I feel it. The pull took me up there last weekend and I was rewarded with a chunky largemouth and a 21" walleye. Not bad for being two weeks early. I can't post pics because they'll identify my spot and then you'll feel the pull too. If you don't already. I always call my buddies and round up the gang. On Monday. "Are you fishing this weekend?". "Dude, it's Monday!". Sometimes I wonder if they feel the pull like I do. It's a rare day when no one comes out so I don't get out alone very often. Perhaps because of that it feels like a rare treat when I do. I didn't call anyone this week. I decided to go alone. I'd have the cold and the coyotes all to myself. And then my phone rings this morning. "Hey, are you going tonight?". A smile creeps across my face. Yup, they feel it too. Thanks for reading my ramblings. Dutch

That link was really enlightening, thanks AKRISONER

I did find a reference to a 29K (commercial) vs 20K (angler) reference in this thread: http://ontariofishingcommunity.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=75514&page=2 I can't find any other hard numbers right now. My point is this isn't a new issue, and both sides are keeping 10's of thousands of kilos of fish. They're both living in glass houses and throwing stones.

I guess it wasn't 2015, that's probably wrong. This is an old issue that's been argued many times. I looked it up a while ago. It's been busy at work so I haven't been able to look for the link.... Sorry!

Angler harvest and Commercial harvest were within a thousand kilos of each other in 2015. It was -/+ 28,000 kg anglers and 29,000 kg commercial if I remember correctly. No one should be pointing the finger unilaterally at the other side here.

It really is a great show. You have so many great moments still to go, I'm jealous!

It's probably a good thing you didn't come by Chad. With the hot sun and blue bird skies fishing was tough. Hopefully I can get up to Nip this fall before close, I'll let you know!

I had that same Exploited shirt! Those were the good old days. And yes, we ARE getting old aren't we?

For some reason they thought it would be fun to dump a box of plastic cutlery on the picnic table and then wrestle around in it at 2am ??? The little buggers!

Restoule is a beautiful park, I highly recommend checking it out. To say there are tons of deer in the park is not an exaggeration! I saw 7 this past weekend, here's a few quick snaps: These were right inside the campground, no need to go hiking to find them. Didn't see any bears but we had the obligatory visit by the trash pandas. Fishing was another story altogether. It was a family camping trip so I didn't get much time in the boat, and when I did it was hot and sunny with no clouds in sight. I managed one small bass in 4 hours. I'm not much for heat and Sun so I'm happy for fall to arrive anyways.

I do think Daredevil was better, yes. I still thought JJ was good though.

I enjoyed the first season of Marvel's Jessica Jones. It's not on the level of Avengers or anything, but it was still quite good. For those that are into the Marvel Universe, Netflix is making a Luke Cage / Power Man spinoff, as well an Iron Fist series. Luke Cage airs September 30 afaik....

It looks like we have a respectful difference of opinion. I'm good with that. Cheers Dara.

So the answer is to give it away free? Yes, I do want the cost of products created by polluting or environmentally unsustainable industries to go up. Many years ago, before I was in the trucking industry, I was in the lumber industry. In those days, it was cheaper to buy Canadian lumber from American companies, and have it shipped back to Canada, than to buy it here in the first place. Does that sound right to you? Does this support keeping jobs in Canada? Maybe only the logging jobs, all the profit went to America. Despite what was said by others above, I know for a fact that dozens of loads of water a day are going down the road to the USA. I don't think Canada getting a few bottling /truck driving jobs is worth giving away our water for $3.74/M liters. Again, this only my opinion, I'm not trying to sell anything to anyone here.

I've been pretty clear in my posts that I'm not focused solely on the water industry and that I think all natural resources developers should be paying more. I'm not sure how that's being misconstrued. I have mentioned nestle because that was the original topic, but I've not excused any other polluter/developer. Oh and thanks for the link, Art. That was a good read.

Dave, I agree there are lots of wasteful practices in the world. But nothing will ever get done if the standard reply is to deflect to other wasteful practices, say yeah but what about that, shrug, then do nothing. I say, why not both (or all)?

Art, I have no doubt that you know more about water than me. However it doesn't take a crystal ball to see the future of resource consumption in the world. It is easier to pollute water than it is to remove the pollution. It is easier to run a well dry than to fill it back up. Desalination is still too expensive to be a viable option from everything I have read. According to the UN (I know there are better sources but this isn't a career for me, I don't have time to dig deeper right now), "There is enough freshwater on the planet for seven billion people but it is distributed unevenly and too much of it is wasted, polluted and unsustainably managed." (source link: http://www.un.org/waterforlifedecade/scarcity.shtml). If you look at the attached picture, you can see that Canada and even the USA are looking pretty good compared to a wide swath of the planet along the equator: This is good news, of course. It means we are in good shape right now. This is all the more reason to stress conservation right now. It is far easier to not use it up/pollute it in the first place. It's not fear-mongering for me to say we should be conserving the resource now before we actually do face a crisis. Also from the same link "Water use has been growing at more than twice the rate of population increase in the last century, and, although there is no global water scarcity as such, an increasing number of regions are chronically short of water." So there is not currently a global water shortage. If we continue to give it away for free and pollute it for another hundred years because anytime someone brings up conservation they are labelled as a conspiracy theorist, my prediction is only more certain to come true. It's never a bad time to start conserving water. That is only my opinion, but I stand by it.

I concede there are worse abusers. You'll get no argument from me there. I'm also not against industry. No industry means no trucking, and then I need a new job. I am against under-valuing our resources - $3.74 per million liters? The stuff will be worth more than oil in a hundred years (maybe less than a hundred).