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Drain the acid to make drugs, refill with water to get paid for the weight at the scrap yard, use the propane to make drugs, sell the empty cylinders to the scrap yard for scrap steel. Sounds like a good business plan to me!

See recycling works lol.

Art

Dutch the only way your way of life will be possible is the collapse of society. Then you will have the right to do anything you want. The down side is so does everyone else. You smoke your weed and I get to shoot you because I want to exercise my right of not having weed smoked around me. The argument you propose is just not possible so to argue it is to go to hypothetical situations that have no relevants in living here and now. I have had lots of people as you call losers who are just people who are down on there luck and with a helping hand they climb back up into society. The ones that turn to drugs, alcohol, or other life numbing items will stay down in the hole. Making a drug easier and glorifying it just as we did to alcohol and tobacco will damage society. Make it a pharmaceutical regulate it, tax it and limit its availability to those that need it is fine. Your quest to educate and change attitudes is refreshing but the place you wish to lead them does not exist at this time.

PS you can fish with me too.lol

Best to you

Art

Aww John come on how do I respond to name them? Look around you do you think the petty thefts are being done for food? Are pawn shops prospering from people who have extra money? You are right about my views they are old....Logic has been taught since the time of the Greece empire 350 B.C. and before. Tunnel vision will not get pot legalized it will just make those who want it to be legal happy and those who don't grumpy. The fall out from it will not be seen by either but will be blamed on something else. Talk to a police officer ask him what he sees day after day and see if he says "yes recreational pot is a benefit to society" I am betting you will not hear that no matter how many you talk to. Blaming it on them being part of the government or the man is not a sound reply.

Art

comparing Alcohol to Pot is sadly hilarious. but done none the less.

 

How many families has Pot destroyed?

How many people have died from Pot?

If these two questions can be answered with knowledge, that would be a great start!.

 

 

Quite a few families are ruined by spending food money on drugs. Children neglected because mom and dad are wasted. The elevation from pot to other drugs on some people wanting to forget their wasted life.

Deaths from smoking pot impaired people have accidents just because it does not say due to pot does not mean it didn't contribute to life costing mistakes.

Thinking that nothing bad happens to pot smokers is to hide from the negative side of something you want approved. Look at the issue with your eyes open weigh the bad with the good then make the decision to make pot a recreational drug. I personally do not have a dog in this hunt pot smoking nor alcohol have any room in my life both make me uncontrollable with any volume and I accept that .

Art

The comparison to pot and alcohol I am making is it cost the health care system and the legal liability is not defined. The drunk driver or a stoned driver are both impaired. The diminished capacity of the brain on drugs no matter what form either alcohol or pot has repercussions both to ones self and other innocent people around you. I have been around both people who are stoned and people who are drunk and there is no way you can say they are at 100% of there game while enjoying either one. I think pot as a medication is viable thing but to add another way to incapacitate ones self is socially self destructive. Now on a scale of 1-10 this is a 3 in things that are bad for society texting and driving is a 6.

Art

Very nice fish Pete wheres mine?

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I have no issues making it a drug and making it available to those prescribed it. I do have an issue making it a recreational drug. Why go down the path that alcohol has become ?Alcohol is a burden on the health care system and it can affect other people who do not drink think drunk driving alcohol fueled rage and other socially unacceptable actions. I do have concerns that in court it is hard to prove impaired and levels of impaired for people who have used cannabis. I also think that it should be processed into a pill and get rid of all of the gourmet type of atmosphere that it has become. It is now just as much fun as choosing cigars or a fine wine which is not a pharmaceutical atmosphere. Yes I also feel alcohol is a mistake and should be taxed 500% to make it less attractive since it will never be outlawed.

Art

I have a question is there a test that can measure the amount of THC in someones body roadside to measure how/if they are impaired? That is a big question that we need to answer before it is allowed to be deregulated to recreational use in my opinion.

Art

About time you two um three got a little rest.

Art

Sorry guys I had to poke Bill M over this one it is not meant to sidetrack this thread.

Art

 

And I wonder how many of those people are racist rednecks? Hard to get a proper opinion when you've got people like that in your society.

 

Exactly!!

Bill read your comment three times and look into a mirror.lol Your condemnation of a group of people label you as a racist. We have racist that do not follow labels, race, creed or culture just as the Islams are openly slammed by some Canadians it is not just one group doing it.

Signed not a racist Redneck.(but I dislike Obama's decisions on my country's behalf).

Art

Great job Mike we are all behind you.

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You don't really think I could let a picture of Mr. Johnson up for some of our younger members to see.

Art

sorry bud but that is not a picture we can leave up.

Art

Just tell him to cover it in hockey tape and it will protect it.

Art

Can you make me one for the 9mm round please.

Very well done as all the rods I am lucky enough to own and the ones I get to see. The tips you have graciously give me over the years on wood finishing has turned my knife handles into works of art.

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Art

Solid fuel includes coal or corn or cherry pits, but for most of us that means cord wood or pellets. The rule here is easy and clear.

IRC M1801.12 Multiple solid fuel prohibited. A solid-fuel-burning appliance or fireplace shall not connect to a chimney passageway venting another appliance.

In other words, only one appliance per flue, period. It goes without saying, I hope, that gas or oil appliances cannot be vented into a flue which also vents a solid fuel appliance. EVERY SOLID FUEL APPLANCE GETS ITS OWN VENT!

AS PER USA RULES

Art

Good decision I decided to let you work through the issues and decide it among the people who it effects. your family.

Art

Since the owners will get yelled at for locking a thread to soon or letting it go on to long we are damned if we do and damned if we dont. I do not moderate for content but whether or not the rules are broken. If everyone keeps a civil tongue and respects others opinions with out cussing these threads could go on as long as the hockey threads. My ability honestly to comment in a political thread about Canadian politics dealing with the Canadian people or facts is severely limited because I dont have a dog in the fight. What I have learned from these threads over the years is the players are different but the general discord is the same both here in the USA and Canada. The best way to get change is one vote at a time.Many great people fought for everyone to have the right to vote please don't throw that away.

Art

Sweet.

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Well said Doug. To everyone please keep this civil and within the rules so it may continue.

Thanks

Art

While the owl seems to be a good idea they do not work at the marina so I expect the owl and the car would have the same result. We use a propane cannon at the orchards that keep the birds from the grapes but again the cost and noise are not good in this case as well. It looks like some type of exterior cover is going to be the best answer.

Art

Wax and a spray bottle of water to rinse the droppings off before they harden.

Art

Very cool thanks for the story and pictures.

Art

I drag a piece of chain when river fishing to slow down and it is snag free.

Art