OhioFisherman

LOL, I bought a brand new 3 bedroom 1 1/2 bath split level home in a western Cleveland area burb in 1975 for 28,900. Yes, there is something scary about seeing young people spending that much for a car now!

dave, I can't remember ever seeing one, walleye and " blue pike " were pretty much gone from this area except for the western basin spawning river by the time I was young, which led to fishing trips to Ontario. Our first was in 1957, because dad couldn't catch walleye here. Plenty of fuel for a debate out there though? Blue Pike Blue pike extinct, but did they ever really exist? Blue Pike - Ohio History Central Great Lakes Blue Pike May Not Be Extinct After All - latimes What ever happened to the Buffalo Blue Pike? – Buffalo Rising Sandusky Register | Looking back on the Blue Pike Blue Pike Story

Well we tried! Glad that worked out for you.

When I was young my dad's brother in law and a friend of his stopped by on the way home from an early spring trip to the Sandusky river here for the spring walleye run, they didn't get any walleye, but had a cooler full of white bass that must have been pushing 2 pounds apiece. I have never seen them consistently so big again, a 4 pounder would be huge! Striper - wiper just more competition for food for existing natural species, like introducing smallies into some of those trout waters? I thought the salmon stocking in lake erie here was misdirected, they might have been better off stocking pike and ski which used too be a lot more common here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_walleye Just a different coloration?

LOL, the first regular trucking company I worked for went out of business in 1976, so I decided to apply to be a fireman in my suburban community, there wasn't a building over 3 floors high. They called and told me the training would be done at Cleveland's fire training school and I would have to jump out of a like 90 foot high tower into a net. Dude no fire behind me and no jump! Except for that it would have been a great job for someone that liked to fish! 24 hours on duty and 48 hours off!

LOL, Lew I graduated from high school in June of 69, my first full time job paid like 3.18 an hour, I thought that was good money back then, you could still buy a new car for 3 grand.

Walleye prices here are roughly 92 times higher, to bad wages didn't keep up?

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grim, just thinking if the previous owner was having trouble adapting to a baitcaster he might have cranked that knob down trying to prevent backlashes? When I first got sick I bought 3 of those lefties, 4- 5- 6- series from a guy on ebay, displays and never fished. I put line on a couple of them but only used one once, my hands stopped working well enough for me to use a baitcaster without tossing it overboard.

I don't suppose it is possible for the spool adjustment knob to be cranked down too hard?

And to wander a bit 2018 Bassmaster LIVE at St. Lawrence River - Sunday - 2018 Huk Bassmaster Elite at St. Lawrence River presented by Black Velvet - Bassmaster BassCam 114 20#+ limits at the scales?

Do wipers even occur naturally? Just my understanding that they are stocked and can't spawn ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Striped_bass " In Canada, the province of Quebec designated the striped bass population of the Saint Lawrence as extirpated in 1996. Analysis of available data implicated overfishing and dredging in the disappearance. In 2002, a reintroduction program was successful.[15][16] " ? Nature finds a way ?

He didn't get to be a fishing god by being grumpy!

Awesome pic!

Over the years the state here made a lot of ponds to get dirt to build highway overpasses, most range in size from 2 - 10 acres and were built of private land near the intended overpass site. It used to be pretty easy to get permission to fish them, but people ruined that for the reasons you mentioned and lawsuits over drowning deaths. Too many people sneaking in late at night for a beer party - skinny dipping fest.

Akri, TSC or any farm supply company should have them ... Search Results for hypodermic needles at Tractor Supply Co. Something like this should work? Producer's Pride Disposable Needle, 22G x 1, Pack of 24 at Tractor Supply Co. Looked at google images of that lake, some very clear water and not many of any shoreline weed - lilies, the drop offs look pretty clear to me, wind and waves might make them harder to see. No idea how your weather is there, but pushing 90 here for the next 7 days, still summer conditions? Like Art mentioned a tube or senko might work anywhere, a fluke style bait in shallow early in the morning might nail fish feeding on baitfish that moved towards shore overnight. Looks like a lot of homes and docks there if they have lights on boat houses or docks those will attract baitfish at night, and bigger fish feeding on them. It's a puzzle with a short time limit?

Better to error on the side of caution? We get the weather warnings on the news, my small township and most in the area have tornado sirens, some of those storms miss us and cause havoc 5-10 miles away.

Akri, win - lose - draw, let us know how you do, I always have an interest in how people pick apart new waters.

Just from looking at a navigation chart, some serious drop offs in that lake, that eliminates most of the lake for smallies or largemouth? I don't picture either hanging out at those kind of depths. I would be looking at some of those points and reef areas for smallies, and broader expanses of shallower water for largies if there are weeds lilies cover?

A healthy tourism industry can and does provide a tremendous economic value to an area and good sport fishing can and does help fuel it. The debate over Ohio buying out the commercial walleye licenses raged on here for like 20 years. Events happening during the 50's - 60's - 70's help the Cleveland area develop the undesired nickname of " the mistake on the lake ". It's pretty sad when the main river in your city burns? I am older and can remember when whitetail deer here in Ohio were on the verge of becoming an endangered species. LOL the suburbs and their no hunting zones probably saved them, now they hire professional hunters to cull their numbers. In some suburban industrial parks here they grazed like cattle and stopped traffic blocking the roads, times change and the thinking has to also? You have different laws and challenges we didn't face here, my family started going to Ontario to fish for walleye because Lake Erie was so bad you couldn't catch them here. The current debate is over banning commercial perch netting, the economics of it seem pretty clear to me? http://www.the-daily-record.com/sports/20061015/greed-gets-best-of-commercial-perch-industry https://ofbf.org/2017/06/29/fishing-big-business-ohios-great-lake/ I do see a number of different challenges facing the camps there though, with the return of walleye fishing here it became harder and harder to convince people to spend the extra money in times of job loss and stagnant wages to venture north, and the need of an extra expense for passports certainly didn't help. Too much competition for the entertainment dollar? Most of the younger generations seem to think a weekend at cedar point or kings island is more appealing than a week in the woods? Changing times? Scary though?

My dad and my brother used to go to Dale Hollow lake in Kentucky/Tennessee in the 60's for spring crappie fishing, he said a lot of people there called them calico bass, I thought it was a southern thing.

I am not a hunter but live in a rural area, before they built homes across the road it was common to see 20 - 30 of them grazing in the field across the road, a local farmer planted it yearly so that did attract them, with the homes there now we don't see them in herds anymore. Having the homes there doesn't mean the are gone, after a rain when the ground was damp I could find deer tracks in my own yard so I think they are just wandering more at night now when people and pets are indoors. If they are wandering at night color might be a moot point? I have a dog, as do most of my neighbors, and the dog scent certainly doesn't seem to keep them away, I had one damage a young maple tree 50 feet from the house rubbing it's antlers and have seen tracks even closer to the house. My next door neighbor on one side has horses, and an electric fence around their back field to pen them in. The horses learn to stay away from it, wandering deer though still break it running thru the back fields. I planted trees every year while I was able to, my son does now, they will top them, especially in the winter when the food supply diminishes. Here are some tips? http://www.havahart.com/articles/keep-deer-off-your-property but a scarecrow that moves with a breeze might scare them off? A plastic human shape?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/columnists/paul-smith/2018/06/30/can-walleye-populations-rebound-if-bass-and-panfish-reduced/738077002/ That article isn't about Scugog but " But recent studies have shown a link between higher water temperatures and reduced production of walleyes, a cool-water fish. "?

Well Jim that article was from a natural history magazine, so I am assuming they are in no hurry to decimate a species of birds without evidence that they are the actual cause of a problem? After a search I found the article was published in 2009, which sort of fit my assumptions based on the dates mentioned in the article. Even I have some issues with the article... " The population growth in the Great Lakes—from approximately 90 breeding pairs in 1970 to nearly 115,000 in 2000—was fueled, ironically enough, by government managers stocking the region’s waters for recreational angling, often using fish raised in the southeastern aquaculture ponds. " They forgot to mention improved water quality? and here in Ohio a ban on commercial walleye fishing, which improved despite a growth in the cormorant population? Outside of LOL, invasive species like salmon and steelhead I have no knowledge of them stocking Lake Erie? The news reports here this year are saying it's the best walleye fishing on Lake Erie in 40 years, amazing what a few consecutive good spawning years can accomplish? and again this is with an increased cormorant population. Sandusky Bay is for the most part shallow ( under 10 feet ) except for a few shipping boat channels and fishing there was much better even with the cormorants than back in the later 60's and early 70's. Of course though, different bodies of water, so cause and effect varies?