If you saw the #'s of emerald shiners clogging the marinas right now Paul, it would probably blow your mind. Not to mention the gobies and freshwater shrimp in Simcoe. That said, I got a big one this weekend that spit up another small perch as I was lifting it into the boat. As soon as the little one hit the water it bolted back down to bottom. Its antagonizer was not so lucky lol.