Steve

the account from the rescuers was only the tip of the bow was out of the water when they arrived, and that was almost immediately after they entered the water... so i don't believe it would be from being water logged...at least not that quickly.

well, the article is based on Haudenosaunee Nation who hunt these local area's, including in my city, Hamilton. We have a protected area on the west side of the escarpment. walking trails, mountain biking trails, etc. I started mountain biking these trails in about 1990 (10 years old). We would see nice deer (big ones too) when we rode. It was a beautiful area. I need to clarify this is DIRECTLY in city limits (I mean, back yards backing directly onto the property, with homes surrounding the entire property). Its not an "edge" or anything like that. about four years ago some neighbours started seeing blood on the trails. Thinking the worst they called the cops. Cops set up a watch and found natives going in at night and using crossbows, shooting deer. this was rather alarming, as this had never been done before, native, non native, or the alike. so the natives were told you are directly in city limits, stop it. of course the next thing that happened is we had bands from all over the area protesting their right to hunt this land. (and now, they are going to do it in the day). it hadn't been done in decades. but now it had to be done. what happened next? well, as it is a public park, the public started using fire works to scare the deer when the natives were coming to hunt. that didn't go over well with the natives so the police SHUT DOWN the public park when the natives were going to hunt. that's some facts. I'm not going to post my feelings, as that isn't allowed in this thread. but those are the facts. let me attach a map of the area referenced in the article (the Hamilton part). Note the scale in the bottom left corner of map. Notice how SMALL of an area this is. Also notice how directly in the middle of the city this area is.

scott walcott just cancelled the remainder of his trips for the year due to picton bay freezing. it hasn't froze yet, but looking at the next five days, his feeling is its going to freeze very very shortly. when we fished our trips picton bay was always frozen. so we used the ferry, then when it froze, we used pryners.

six years in a row I did 10 to 12 day trips in December on Quinte - in my 17' boat. you just have to know when not to go out. we never tried to "beat" the weather. if we saw the winds were going to blow, we didn't go out. the key is knowing if your up for 10 to 12 days, there is the next day to wait. safety is paramount out there. i'm very glad these fella's are still around to hug their families. what scares ME the most is the crazy kayaker's who are out there in November, then posting on the net to show their results. THAT is going to cause a death. My late buddy Serge, who died on Lake Ontario, in his Kayak, in November, was experienced, and went out on a calm day. A freak snow squall blew threw and that was the end of it. Be safe EVERYONE!

Scott is a very solid dude. Good on him.

"Sherry Emmerson, who is a First Nations Ojibway, led a small group of hunt supporters. “I was there to show solidarity for the hunters. I am educated on all the facts as to why the hunt is taking place. It is culturally-based,” she said." My ass it is.

Oskie Waa Waa Holy Mackinaw Tigers ... Eat 'em RAW!!

i agree. it would be a valuable learning experience for everyone that fishes big water.

oh i was the first to say good job reimer! i have no issue with that

thanks for the confirmations. 2 bank it is!!

great job reimer!

it was an ofc member? damn. it will REALLY be interesting to find out what happened.

is the guide representing the fish as his?

absolutely Shane. I know we always have the debate of tiller vs console. in this case, tillers can be safer. I sit on the motor and don't leave. plus, you can lock down the tiller so it doesn't move/turn. i've seen folks with steering wheels having a helluva time controlling their boat..... two guys in boat, one on rod, other with the net, who has the wheel? be safe out there guys!

ya, the family of the poor fella has posted on quintefishing.net just asking anglers to keep their eyes open for any debris or anything.... now its just a recovery mission ....

boards out and/or riggers out, wind causes boat to turn, something gets caught in prop (rigger cable, line, etc), wave in back, done. (not saying that is what happened) but it is easy to happen. had a close call in 2007. only difference was it was in december and i was the only boat on the reach. scared the crap out of me.

no Lew, guys are still missing. very sad. went out last Tuesday evening out of Trenton. Never returned. Fellow was a member of Quintefishing.net been a tough week on Quinte.

sounds like it was Scott Walcott (Bay of Quinte Charters) and Sheldon Hatch (Ezelo) who did the pickup. great job boys!!!

damn .... hope everyone was ok....sounds hairy. good to hear you were happy with how your boat handled Greg. much higher sides on your lund over a ranger.

excellent. sounds like i wont have an issue mounting on the bow. folks that have 3 bank, are you using one bank for cranking battery? my cranking battery never seems to have an issue. as such i'm thinking a two bank for my 24v TM would be fine?

Art, now that's funny.

This is my favourite photo. This was our "families" first 5lbs largie. We had searched for well over a decade for a true 5lbs largie. Many smallies over five and a couple over six had been caught, but never a largie. This particular lake we fished a couple years when I was a kid - great memories! Well, a few years ago Louis Milo and I were fishing Quinte and I was telling him about our quest for a true five pound largie. He names a lake and I couldn't believe it. That was the lake I fished with my old man when I was a kid, in our canoe. We went back, now in the boat, and on our first day Dad latches into this beast. We put it on the scale looking at the weight. Both of us just sat there in a moment of silence - I wish that moment would have lasted forever. The photo was great. Dad with smoke in mouth is just how I remember it. Both of us now have caught largies up to six, but this one will always be the most special. Thanks again Louis! Just look at the mouth on that fish, and the look on dad's face!

my experience was like sinkers. we used to use them on quinte, fishing the reach. unless the boat you were communicating with was in eye sight, you weren't talking to them.

you mean he's not interested in parading the fish to every show in North America, asking if folks want his autograph.

reading this thread, and the replies, i could not imagine fishing without a pedal, only using the remote. that would suck - huge! now, using the foot pedal, making a track, then following it with the remote - that sounds like an awesome way to do it!!!