u gotta try, its pretty awsome action, i brought a few in on 2 trips, not badd, biggest 4,5 lber, lost quite a few in trout pond cus of em lily pads, but not now im better eqiupped , got my selft a baitcaster with 50lb braid, b4 plain old monfilament , 8 lb ... dude u gotta try it, i can take out on a tour if ya would like...