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I would talk some common sense about Golden Lake but I realize this thread was about Nipissing Because I and my relatives got to witness 1st hand how Natives that looked very much like southern Ontario white guys snagged "Huge spawning walleyes out of the Bonnechere river at Deacon in the 70's and filled the backs of pick up trucks...with the motto---If we don't take em--somebody else will See finger pointing goes many ways Golden lake is not that big...and yes the nets do hurt the fishery---but so do all the camps...cottages ...trailer parks...that hit the lake relentlessly from opener to ice--and don't forget the ice huts that leave lines in 24/7 Again---easy to find the easy villain

Don't sweat it grumpy fish.....sometimes the fingers hit enter before all the thoughts are laid out I do believe what your saying as part of the issue,.....as well as the nets....as well as the lake personality changes....as well as climate change....as well as pollution.. as well as technological improvements (See Grand Banks NFLD)......etc etc etc And If you fish walleyes much...you'll know the migratory patterns of the fish---and know that the boats are where the fish are---so if the boats are not currently in that area---likely the walleyes are not either....save a straggler or 6 And for the ??????? time...this problem is not a one criminal issue......and those that predicate this...are looking for a scapegoat that's an easy target ---nicely wrapped into one neat bow Life is easier if theirs a villain to blame ....collect the angry villagers....who all think alike to validate our lack of answers to a complex problem Maybe the political posters are right...maybe I should get educated

You do realize there is a non native commercial fishery on the great lakes

Funny---I guess I'm illiterate then---I thought it was in regards to disappearing walleye numbers in Nipissing and the reasons thereof And I guess I am no good at laws either...because I do not have the right to net walleyes in Nipissing....But The NFN does within the law--as apparently the courts have decided under That Constitution So My deductive reasoning must also be off....because it's not the same rules (laws) for all groups...or one law for all Same reason I can't shoot a moose in January

Yeah..we seem to be getting an abundance of them as well....and I just asked the wife---if that uniform is mandatory he mentions? My luck is I usually meet em at a hilltop or curve where I just can't pass em---not knowing what's comin

Last Time I checked a map----6 Nations was a long ways from Nipissing---which this thread was about and walleyes Got an axe to grind---maybe open a new topic and see if you get any bites on that

Real Man Soup Recipe 1 cup of Detroit River Sheepshead (cubed...gutted optional) 1/2 cup of warm July pike slime 3 cups of 2 day old minnow bucket water 3 tsb of craw claws from the bottom of the livewell 1/2 tsp of gunpowder Serves 4 in a well ventilated area

Or you could read that my statement was a response to Crosshairs quote of the Constitution...or previous posts on just breaking the law if you see fit maybe What I wrote should not be blindly taken out of context And Never...not once did I say lawbreakers should not be punished----can you show me where I wrote this?? But some things ARE the law...like them or not There are some laws I don't like---but that's part of living in a community So if you don't like a law...work to change it...thru proper channels

Hey---I can play as good as Elvis

I would caution quoting the Constitution...Courts and the Law Some believe obviously only the laws that favour their position are worth regarding...otherwise it's just the lefties pandering to special interest groups Stupid laws...don't they know I should be able to do whatever I want---to whoever I want...whenever I want After all..it's a free country..right?

Yes I remember the callander bay floatillas But yet again there is much to factor in---this is'nt a one cause problem Take Old Ironmakers comment on pricing----can I take my 1000 bucks and do better elswhere? People are more mobile today than even 30 years ago----what took you in time to drive to North Bay---with improved hiways and better vehicles---where does the same time put you? This is the information age------The internet is plugged with different fishing opportunities just as good as Nip was in her good days These are just a few And add the continuous internet talk on how bad things are on Nip----If I'm sittin in the US lookin for a trip to Canada---do a quick web search on reviews----keep reading these type stories.....Where am I going??

http://www.thesudburystar.com/2010/06/28/fleas-invade-lake-nipissing

Which leads right to my point Nip's woes seem to be directed at commercial nets....yet Southern On is at the doorstep---and rarely in these threads gets factored in If nets were the sole cause---those northern lakes would be decimated---especially with the lack of a microscope checking in on a regular basis.

Exactly....walleyes size class as much or more than many species---I've been on spots where I could catch 13-14 inch fish all day long Maybe fewer fisherman are going because of the rules and bad press like this I have'nt fished Nip in 35 years----But I'm going out on a limb and say it has been affected by zebra mussels....correct??---this can change a fishery as well as all the other factors I mentioned Nobody is disputing how bad the ghost nets are---...

Ask yourself how much netting goes on in Northwestern Ontario and Manitoba Not as many endangered species threads on those waters apparently

Ya know I was gonna let this go and vanish like the last couple of these into obscurity Maybe everyone should take a step back and Consider all the factors that have affected many fisheries Those 30 years ago----you mention---netting was still going on---likely 300 years ago 30 years ago---technology was primitive compared to today's standards---I myself today can pinpoint walleyes with very good accuracy---I could not 30 years ago Has climate had a hand???---has spawning areas changed?...do commercial netters have better equipment to cover more water?.....etc..etc. Veiled finger pointing does nothing to educate or make change---it is very good at picking sides though Look at the population growth in Southern Ontario and compare it to 30 years ago----Nipissing is very commutable and well marketed----anglers are so much better educated at targeting Are commercial netters part of the problem...very likely......all of the problem.....hardly remember one really does catch more flies with honey though than you do with vinegar

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Actually was'nt my question---I just agreed

Good question

I nearly had a head on with 3 crotch rockets last year I live in an area of hills and winding country roads---and groups of bikers use it lots for their tours---It's even advertised in magazines At times they try to see how fast they can go down these roads Anyway one Sunday morn---I'm driving along.....coming up to what is the crest of a hill and a sharp curve at the same time Well there was approx 15-20 bikers in this group---but the lead 3 went too fast and could'nt negotiate the curve at their hi speed---they ended up right in the middle of MY lane and comin fast I haul it over on the shoulder (doing 80km--also not the safest-------they yank on their bikes till their knees are nearly on the asphalt---we miss each other by not much They all kept going---I stopped at the next house down the road and called the cops----not sure what happened after that?? What amazes me is that 99% of people would'nt drive this fast with steel around them and airbags----How far thru the air would they fly if I hit them---or would they go thru my front windshield and out the back window?---assuming they did'nt hit me driving Ya want to commit suicide???---Go do it somewhere where you won't hurt anyone else

Chris...I thought you were a young person...playin good older tunage tho How's bout old guy reversin it

This has been used in several soundtracks lately In case you needed the title when your hummin it Jeff Lynne...a musical genius who never got all the kudos he should have....ie: on the Zepplin scale http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YbbJndyTj0

Yeah I remember Johnny fondly I believe he's still fishin and checkin in on us Wonder what ever happened to the Dawg...GCD (Green Coach Dog)..always good for a comeback

Don't they use them for bait for big stripers??

I won't hijack this great thread...just to say------I'll always remember my 1st introduction with grayling Couple guys took me out where the Fondulac River dumps into Black Lake Sask.......It was like dying and going to heaven Gin clear water....base of the rapids....water literally black (or blue) with grayling And man---they were really good to eat (tin foil..butter..onion--toss in fire) A memory I'll always have thanks again Luc