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I lol'd hard at this. I've done things like this a ton of times. "hey kids, wanna go crawfishing?" hahahaha Nice crappie, and it's always lovely to find tackle you had forgot about!!!

and Country Mike, lol Really good drinking tunes!

To all those that loved the Beastie Boys, You should check out some of their side projects that alot of people were never familiar with... my personal fav Beastie Boys tune besides So Whatcha Want http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLFlW3UaQuU

Thats a great post, very logical. The last sentence is troublesome. Kickingfrog, I can understand where your coming from as well. All my kids (exception of my youngest daughter) all play sports. I'm worried too. Me and fishgreg had a good discussion about kids and concussions as well...

Im not familiar, but you could easily see some inspiration on other artists. RIP Been doing too much of this lately

I loved all there tunes, but I loved, absolutely loved having beers and playing their instrumental stuff. They had like a hip hop jazz thing that was just awesome to chill out to. Kings of New York, I doubt there is anyone in New York that wasn`t influenced by Adam http://www.youtube.c...h?v=NLFlW3UaQuU

Some very good points here, especially on the `coward`aspect. Funny how you can notice `roid rage`though, when it`s a clinical anomaly. That being said, there is a distinct difference between anabolics and androgens, there ratios etc. What many people believe to be `roid rage`` is more often a psychological issue. If one becomes moody and irritable, it`s usually from prolactin and progesterone, and other estradiols. Anabolics typically offer a sense of well being and calmness. But certain steroids do increase aggression, but there hard to obtain and the aggressiveness ` is usually due to very high androgen content and binding affinity. These are not typically prescribed medications. DHT based steroids are very different in action then anabolic type steroids. One reason professional athletes stayed away from androgens was that they often left joints feeling very stiff and dry, due to their lack of aromatization. They also have very short half lives and then, chemist altered the drug to extend half live via methylation. Methylation means it would bypass first pass metabolism in the liver, which would then make them mildly toxic. Not enough to kill you, but enough to show stress in liver values. This happened in the early 80`s, and is old news by now. Again, I`m not trying to piss anyone off here, I`m just trying to educate and debunk very common myths Also, before you condemn these compounds, maybe you should look into how many lives they save. AIDS patients, burn victims, the elderly, the list goes on... Oh yeah, many a cancer patients as well, something I would think many on this board would appreciate, although it`s still very unfortunate set of circumstances. and that bottom part is not directed at you express168... Just so you know

For me, it will be the liquid part of the risotto. But yes, I know it's just a broth, and can have many other uses. Smells good in the house right now, can't wait to use it (the fish stock)

Totally agreed with you and Blaque. I took no offense at all to this thread or his posts

after I fillet them there will be no meat on them(for the most part). I'll heed your advice anyhow, just getting things going now The Crappie fillets is getting fried up tonight for supper. The fish stock is for risotto at a later date

Beastie Boys Check Yer Head is still one of my all time favorites. RIP Very innovative man, very humble and quite the funny guy...

I was thinking the exact same thing! Awesome report and pics! Thanks for sharing

Controlled fermentation in sanitized conditions is fine by me. I use Lea & Perrins, and it's legit (according to How its Made) lol.

Thanks dood! Is there a reason why not to add the entire fish(sans gills/fillets)???

Be nice is the mods could relocate the other discussion into a separate thread. I think it's great discussion other then the fact we veered away from JR Seau.

I thought I'd post this before I go on an adventure making my own fish stock for the first time ever. Since that other thread really grossed me out, I wanna make some instead of buy some (even though it's not fish sauce, thanks BB!) I have some really nice crappie to fillet up today, and I wanna make a stock, about a gallon. The plan is to use it later on for some walleye risotto. If anyone has done this before, id would be nice to get some tips on seasoning etc. Since I've never done it before, I was going to follow a simple recipe off the internet, then see how it turns out. Then I can alter it from there if needed. Thanks in advance for any input

and then they call it fermentation... lol Totally friggin gross. I had a friend give me some homemade fish sauce once, he said he used anchovies/salt and thats it. It was good in very small amounts, had a nutty flavor to it. I'll never buy anything off the shelf now however...

Thats so cool! Sounds like an amazing adventure, now go rest up so you can catch us some more fish porn!!!!

Just so people know,,, When a clinical, double blind placebo trial is done, it is essential every side effect/illness/ailment is documented. So what you end up with in many cases, are a list of side effects and possible issues that may not in fact be directed towards the drug being studied. So a person/company/reporter can then use that information to spin it in a way they feel benefits them, or gets their agenda across, or get a drug to the market etc. So unless you really understand pharmacology, it's very tough to make a valid point about the use/misuse of a compound, because you can show a study that proves anything you want it to prove, but that doesn't mean it's correct.

BB, I'm not trying to discount you. Earlier in the thread, I typed about how my concussions effected my ability to get my thoughts across in a manner that can be understood, lol. But it is a discussion of knowledge vs. opinion, so were bound to clash on our thoughts/experiences. Again, alot of times, I either come off as an , or people can't understand what I'm saying, and thats not what I'm trying to convey at all. That is one of my lovely little symptoms of my concussions have left me with

Pharmacology and organic chemistry use to be a passion of mine. I'm not a "doctor" though Just poking fun, I don't mean any disrespect. Knowledge is power, or or them fighting words? lol BillM, an autopsy probably won't show much in terms of steroids in ones system. The half life on most these drugs is remarkably short, with a few exceptions to the ester the compound is binded too. What they look at is the ratio of testosterone to epitostosterone, then they basically guess. Sounds dumb, but it's totally true. Unless his numbers were tested prior, that all you can really do. Most anabolic steroids are altered chemically from their pharmaceutical counterparts, so there is no baseline to test against. If the compound and its metabolites have not existed in a lab somewhere, there is no test that will show an "unkown" drug in your system. Remember as well, there are numerous sub-types of steroids as well. So even if they say "we found steroids!!!!" it's very likely they are referring to steroids that aren't anabolic in nature, but more than likely a corticosteroids or something of the like.

fishgreg, in terms of the further study of concussions and their effects. It's great that they are studying it in further detail, and obviously the science relating to it is improving, and thats a great thing. But this issue will never be fully understood, nor resolved. Neurotransmitters are ridiculously complicated, to the point where even the experts in the field know very little. They involve a lovely little lady named homeostasis, and they alter production, amounts etc very often, and are intricately correlated to our minds/bodies actions in millions of ways. They are altered also by millions of other factors, how we act, where we live, how we eat and the list carries on forever. Thats part of the problem in studying these issues, there are simply too many factors involved to create studies that can show definitive answers. We can only create theories, and then test those theories. But even when an answer if found, it complicates the issue further, it doesn't resolve it. and yes, it is a very interesting debate.

You sir make the best fishing reports I've ever read, well its a tie with Moosebunk, lol. Amazing!!! Thanks for sharing

RIP anyhow, just a difference in opinions. Lets get back to fishing, I wanna see more of those perch BB

It's not a matter of whos right, lol. For every study you show me with negative side effects, I can show you hundreds of the positives. I wouldn't rule out it may have played a role, and it might not have. But it is far more likely there was other issues or drug use etc. Your way more likely to die from NSAID use or even acetaminophen use then any steroid. The mind works on a complicated system of neurochemistry, steroids alter neurochemistry indirectly, unlike SSRI's and other anti depressant drugs that are way more at risk of causing suicidal episodes. It could even be the alteration of the "risk/reward" system and his neurotransmitor makeup that contributed to his condition. I often wonder how ex professional athletes deal with things as they step away from that pedastle they are on. It must be a very tough thing to deal with mentally.