scuro2

Natulist manual inflatable $99. At Angling Outfitters in Woodstock and on sale. Bought one today.

I thought I saw them at bass pro for under $90. Is this such a great "deal"?

Bring some silver poppers and spooks. Good if the water is calmer.

The lure that caught me absolutely squat last year would be the Little Cleo!.....Yes, I know, amazing as it sounds.....The worlds most vesatile lure in my opinion (There is, I believe, a cleo color pattern and size available for any given possible situation;ie: jigging, casting, trolling). But, will I say that the Cleo is a un-productive bait?......Only a fool could say so! Do I own probably almost every color pattern and size? Yes!...............I will continue to fish with this spoon, based on fellow angler's sucess rates, and will someday catch a fish on a Cleo!

Try throwing a small gulp grub on the end...yellow and get rid of the treble.

I've had no luck with Yozuri lures.

Giveya a dollar a lure!

Here is a pic of my most dissapointing lures.

Those lures look like they would work down south, where flash is everything, those cheap southern tramps...always going for the gold and silver!

Sorry.. .I don't have time to take pictures of 700 or so spoons!

I've had a long love affair with spoons. Make me an offer for the lot that I can't refuse!!

On the other hand I've had these hard swim baits that are cut into about 10 sections and joined together, that have never caught a damn thing.

Nicely shot pictures...a pleasure to look see fish on ice.

I went ice fishing once, everyone was getting wasted and then someone noticed a fish on the line.

If the total bill is $40 dollars or less and you have them send it through regular US mail there is no tax. US mail is more expensive so I'm not sure how much savings there is going that route.

Happy New Years GCD. I'll like pics of you even if you are green and yellow!

Shoulda paid the extra bucks for the tailored suit. This is what your outfit was supposed to look like. If your going to be a crimefighter you gotta look the part.

I love the smell and slime of a fresh caught fish! It reminds me of something else... but Ican't rember what...

Napalm...nothing like that smell in the morning!

Fishing brings you to places where nature is vibrant, it is in such spots that one can dream as we were meant to do.

Cuba in March

Manitoba in July

Hopefully Cuba at Christmass

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QUOTE (scuro2 @ Dec 16 2009, 04:05 PM) *

The last names of the 4 who were harassed are not even all Asian

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that they did was wrong

the guy should spend a lot of time in jail

 

but every time I heard about this it was billed as a racial crime

if half of them were not of the race named how can it be racial

 

but maybe they are all of the same race and this is a racial attack...I was just trying to confirm facts

Not a problem...who knows if they were all of Asian descent and some just had English names. That hasn't been made clear in any of the news reports. Who knows how it went down exactly. If the anglers were of mixed descent did they target the Asian looking ones? Sounds like the justification for the two trucks ramming the civic into the lake was that a fight broke out one of the four anglers got the better of one of the gang. That could simply be a lie to cover Middleton's arse...or it could have happened and simply been a case of self defense. That part of the story isn't expanded upon and since it isn't...I don't see these 4 anglers as being the aggressors as Middleton has painted them out to be.

The one thing for certain is that this has become a major news story.

hold it

 

the headline is

 

 

News Canada

Guilty verdict in Asian fisherman attack

 

By TORONTO SUN STAFF

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..can some confirm that only 2 of the 4 people attacked were Asian..

This is what I posted, "The last names of the 4 who were harassed are not even all Asian so it doesn't look like they were even targeting recent immigrants but instead, established Canadians".

From the Star article which I posted previously.

Court heard a frantic 911 call to the police from Hogan as the Civic was being rammed by the truck. Hogan said two trucks were trying to drive their car into Lake Simcoe. Middleton testified he chased the vehicle to make a citizen's arrest after his friend was beaten up. Liu testified that after his vehicle hit a tree and his friends were ejected, he pleaded for Middleton's help, but was refused. Middleton drove off without calling police. Hogan was thrown from the vehicle into Lake Simcoe. Berwick suffered a fractured skull, a blood clot on the brain, 10 broken ribs and a punctured lung.

I don't know too many recent Asian immigrants with the last name of Hogan or Berwick. Of course it is possible. I did hear the 911 call today and while the occupants were clearly in a panic, the voice was in plain english. Moments later the call goes dead as they are rammed into a tree. Also I read that the four at first asked if Middleton et al, were joking when they asked for their fishing licenses. That demonstrates a good working knowledge of English. I think you could safely assume that at least some of these 4 victims were established Canadians.

To me it's a moot point, this is clearly a case of racism and it doesn't much matter if they were recent immigrants. I made that point simply to show that the gang wasn't looking for "immigrants" but rather a racial type which could have been anyone with Asian like features. It shows a level of ignorance similar to what we saw after 9-11 when a hindu temple was desecrated in Hamilton. Those Einsteins were going after Canadian Muslims. The Asian community is asking that Middleton be charged under the hate crimes section of the criminal code, I couldn't agree more with their assertion.

it sounds like the four guys were INTIMIDATED by the 10-20 rednecks and decided to get the hell outa there to me...

wouldn't you ?

Yup.

What it looks like about 20 "youths" chillin together late one night. According to the National Post some in this group where drinking. I can see it now, one of them gets the bright idea of "nip tipping" so they all race out to the local fishing hole. Here they found their victims as four guys were fishing at the time and this large gang circle the four and ask them for their fishing licenses. They got pushed in as they attempted to get the licenses out. The last names of the 4 who were harassed are not even all Asian so it doesn't look like they were even targeting recent immigrants but instead, established Canadians. Two of the four got thrown in the water. The four then attempted to flee in a Honda Civic. The gang chases them in two trucks, to make a "citizen's arrest". They ram into the Honda Civic repeatedly and very nearly push the car into Lake Simcoe, Apparently if you are going to make a citizens arrest, they have to be in a lake first. In ramming the Civic one of the 4 is ejected out of the car and suffers serious injury when the Civic hits a tree. The force of the ramming imprints the license plate of the truck perfectly on the bumper of the civic. This piece of evidence shocks the jury. Trevor Middleton, in his defense, stated they were attempting to make a citizen's arrest because one of the four apparently beat up his friend.

Yeah right, and the jury didn't buy that one either.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/arti...-guilty-verdict

The incident started after Liu and his friend Charles Hogan were pushed into the water at a popular Sutton-area fishing spot. Court heard Liu was fishing with Hogan and longtime friends Shayne Berwick and Shiv Kumar at the "Blue Bridge" of Mossington Park. The family of Berwick – who suffered severe brain damage that has left him in a wheelchair after Middleton ran the car into a tree with his truck – held hands tightly and wept after the decision was read. Outside the courtroom, Berwick's father, Colin, said the family is gratified with the conviction. "Now we are just trying to get Shayne back to where he was before," Colin Berwick told a crush of reporters. "But we didn't see the (outcome) being any other way. The evidence was overwhelming." Brad Lee, spokesman for a group of Asian Canadians, urged Justice Alfred Stong to give Middleton a stiff jail sentence in the hope it will act as a deterrent. Since 2007, there have been 25 reported attacks on Asian anglers, many on Lake Simcoe, Lee said. "We are hoping the judge will consider hate crimes as an aggravating factor in sentencing," Lee said. Middleton's family and his lawyer Gerald Logan declined to comment. Middleton is due back in court Jan. 4, when a date is scheduled to be set for sentencing. During the trial, court heard that three truckloads of youths drove to the fishing spot in the early morning hours of Sept. 16, 2007, in anticipation of "nip-tipping." The four friends and three others were fishing at the Mossington Park bridge when Middleton and his group of 10 to 20 youths arrived in pickup trucks and an SUV.

Witnesses testified Liu and Hogan were pushed into the water after the youths demanded to see their fishing licences. Following a scuffle between Kumar and one of Middleton's friends, the four anglers piled into Liu's Civic, with Middleton in pursuit. Court heard a frantic 911 call to the police from Hogan as the Civic was being rammed by the truck. Hogan said two trucks were trying to drive their car into Lake Simcoe. Middleton testified he chased the vehicle to make a citizen's arrest after his friend was beaten up. Liu testified that after his vehicle hit a tree and his friends were ejected, he pleaded for Middleton's help, but was refused. Middleton drove off without calling police. Hogan was thrown from the vehicle into Lake Simcoe. Berwick suffered a fractured skull, a blood clot on the brain, 10 broken ribs and a punctured lung. He spent three months in a coma and is expected to need constant care for the rest of his life. Colin Berwick said his son, now 26, was three years into his five-year electrician's apprenticeship when he was injured. His son has no memory of life before the accident, Berwick added.

My experimentation with colouring plastics end soon after I field tested the hand coloured baits. I smiled reading about pool testing. Sounds like something I might have done. How did you watch the lure from the side while reeling in?

Yozuri makes the Tobimaru plug with what I thought was hugely oversized hooks. Bigger hooks lead to less wiggle, and perhaps hook size is a choice of the manufacturer to create the right type of movement for each lure? It also sounds like removing one hook will create a different balance...all stuff I hadn't really considered. thanks!

When you think about it, they have big hair, tight outfits, and lavish make-up. Ya sure they aren't a bunch of old queens?

I will be trolling 5 inch plugs with leaders for toothy critters down south. Do leaders change the action and would thin titanium do better then thicker fluro? Also would like to remove the front hook since most fish down south attack from behind. (I'll be in an inflatable...the less hooks the better!). Would removing one hook or changing sizes of hooks change the action of the plug?

This is the forum that bonefishermen use. Do a search and you should find all the info you want.

http://www.reel-time.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=7

Not sure if you have fished down south before...if not target Cuda....an aggressive predator a little

like a pike but on steroids. Some general info here. http://www.inshore.com/tips-cuda.html

Dude,

 

If by being pissed off at the addition of yet another tax that is going to pay for things our "other" taxes are supposed to have covered in the first place

Then I guess I'm quite happy to say....heck yea I'm resorting to "sun Media Hyperboleing"

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but Daltons biggest promise that got him re-elected was his promise of no tax increases right?...feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

And then along came a "health care premium" and now the "HST"

 

We're getting hooped twice...

Sorry all the hoopla and loop holes and rebates are crap.

Its just garnish on the plate Dalton is useing to cover the crap he is serving.

There is no way ANY new taxes are good for a struggling economy, or the average working man.

Forgive me for the outburst but geeze this is ridiculous....how is any increase to our cost of living a good thing?

Duder,

Nothing wrong with anger or anger at this tax...what bothers me immensely on this board is uniformed opinion that is blatantly biased...aka "Sun Media" parrots. If people want to talk issues then they shouldn't regurgitate hack news media propaganda and they should be informed enough to talk about BOTH sides of an issue.

Bottom line here is that the tax is supposed to be revenue neutral. How can that be when we are hosing BOTH the consumer and business? It is the business lobby that has pushed this one through, and Harper is pro-business so it all makes sense. In theory business is to pass along the savings but I will concede that this may very well not happen. Canada is falling in line with other countries around the world with the harmonization. This is good for business and ultimately good for Canadians. If the cost of doing business here is significantly greater then the majority of the G-20 countries, we will collectively have fewer jobs. What good is less tax if there is less business?