Yup. That is what I told my father as well. We tried Selerno because his neighbor spoke highly of it. We may have simply had a bad day.
We were fishing drop-offs along shortlines where the weeds ended it went quickly to approx 20ft. Not a single bite, not even bass. Then we worked around some rock shoals that where just sticking out of the water and had transitions to weeds and drop-offs ... again nothing. We finished off at one small section that had some shallow lilly pads and I have one large mouth smack my surface frog ... approx 2lb'r ... saw it swim away.