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3 hours ago, Scottwisconsin said:

HEY!!!! mine isnt working worth a poop now either. I can still access the maps but they take forever to load and large lakes around here only load partially. I think this years subscription was a bust. As to the previous post about regressing service. In most cases its illegal. It falls under payment for services not rendered. If you buy a boat new with a 50 hp 4 stroke merc they can not show up and replace the merc with a 9.9hp. You purchase a product with terms. Thats the whole point of an EULA. You read the description of the product make an informed decision. Once the product is purchased you own that product as it was advertised and presented. Normally thats why a base product is made available with micro transaction to pay for upgrades and added content/features. What Navionics seems to be doing is degrading an existing product to compel its customers to purchase  upgrades just to get the product you purchased in the first place.  The whole thing reeks of product misrepresentation.

scott

You are purchasing the app. with your money it is not implied anywhere that they will support the app to infinity. You will find that they have the right to discontinue or limit the use in there term of agreement which you accept by purchasing the app. This prevents a company that fails from being liable for supporting the failed product. If the company is losing money from  an app. they will either make it profitable or they will dump it. This is the same as when a car manufacturer finds that the level of purchases for a 1987 gremlin starter motors purges them from the manufacturing line. No one complains when they wear out a pair of jeans and have to replace them every year look at an app. that needs to be updated as the same thing. 

Art

Nice grab for sure. You should find that it is well maintained being a County vehicle they get an amazing amount of care.

Art

Lets keep this to facts without the slams please. So far we have heard from the Person who is holding the contest and he appears to have all of his "I"s dotted and "T"s crossed. I am happy to see that people are taking the time and effort to improve the fisheries. Please respect the rules here and this thread will be kept open. 

Thanks

Art

You might want to remind the person that if you want over $ 8,000.00 cash that it has to be prearranged for the bank to have the money on hand for them to pick up.  I needed 19,000 for a piece of equipment and they had to have it delivered but asked next time to give them a weeks warning the next time. 

Art 

good words to end this on. Thanks to all for not winding up and getting to political or bashing each other. I personally hope that Canada never goes down the same road that the US has gone where a gun is needed to protect you from another gun. Once that box is opened it can never be closed no matter how heavy you regulate it. 

Art

You are on a thin line here if it gets anymore political or personal attacks it going to be locked. 

Art

If you go to the goodwill or resale place you will find white cotton long sleeve shirts for a couple of bucks. I then have a long billed hat with drapes on the sides and back to cover the neck. A trip to a clothing outlet will help you finish off the outfit with a pair of light cotton pants if they are not at the goodwill store. If you feel yourself getting to warm a cup of water down the front and back of the shirt will cool you back down. 

Art

That a really nice boat. It is the same lay out as my Ranger. The amount t of throttle chop depends on the size of the wake. I run in an area that has tinnies and 50ft yachts the effect is to get the boat off the pad and stable but the nose is high to keep you dry. Depending on the amount of air you get under the boat will tell you if going into or down wind is it's preferred direction. The Reason I rescued this boat was it was the last year of this hull design which i fell in love with. The boat was owned by my fishing buddy who moved to the coast and decided to sell it to get another style of boat. I rebuilt the lower deck and replaced the electronics. Replaced all of the seats and steering was changed to hydraulic. Rebuilt the motor and added a 24 volt system for the trolling motor. Lots of love and work went into it because of the memories of fishing with my friend Tommy T. 

Art

I guess I should elaborate on chopping the throttle. I will be running around 50 mph and as i approach a wake go back to 1/4 throttle before you hit the wake it will raise the nose quickly and then power back up to match the speed of the other side of the wake. You will not really have time to trim the motor and since you are not getting off plane you should be able to not needing to trim the motor. With less than a one foot chop you can trim out till you are running on the pad with no issues of chin walk. The water splashing off the side of the boat will tell you when you are solidly on the pad.It will be right next to the driver or slightly behind. The best run is down wind with a 1 foot chop you are sitting about 2 ft eye level above the water so the feeling of flying is real. If you can't trim out porpoising increase your speed till it settles. Most bass boats either are off plane or on the pad. The 89 Ranger 18ft does not like to go slower than 28 mph and finds the pad around 30 it really depends on how the boat is loaded. I have 3 batteries and 185 lbs of fuel in the back of the boat. on rough water or when I need more control from porpoising I will fill the front live well to give me a little more nose weight. When it really gets snotty I will have my fishing buddy sit on the lip of the front casting deck. Finally wax is your friend for keeping scumlines down and don't park against black rubber tire. They are a bugger to clean off the finish. 

Enjoy.

Art 

The carburetors on mine are the gtx series which are quite fuelish. The motor needed to be rebuilt a few years back and I milled the heads, once over on the pistons and a few other tricks to get more power out of it. I figured while i was inside to modify it for more power. I run a 3 blade SS cupped prop. and carry and use the aluminum one when I am up North. A full set of plugs, fuses, basic socket set and hand tools, distress flag and flare gun are always on board as well as the Canadian legal requirements. One item I also found really useful is a nerf football it can be jammed in a hole in the hull in an emergency. So far I haven't used it on the fiberglass boat but it saved the day when I popped a hole in the aluminum boat running the rapids. Flat out with the SS prop I am doing 57 MPH which is just plain fun in my mind it helps that gas is around $2.50 a gallon in the summer. 

Art

I think the biggest difference between the rivers and lakes is up North you have basins that the glaciers striped of soil and the rock areas are more cliff like. Down here we have basins that are full of sediment and not cliff like. Running major size rivers usually your dangers are flotsam  or deadheads more than sheer walls and shoals. Our smaller rivers they tend to have very thin water and rapids so a bass boat is NOT the correct boat. You can run them in a canoe but I hate float trips and having to park a vehicle at the down stream location to pull out. For those rivers we use a jetboat that can go both up and down river under power. 

Art

The tell tail or pisser hole is a visual if the pump is working. The older motors have two alarms at least on my evinrude it is a low oil and a thermal overheating gauge. I do not have a water pressure gauge on a 1989 GTX150.Not a bad idea but I have lived without one. I will warn you that my boat at full throttle is consuming 9/10th of a gallon per minute with 2 14 gallon tanks. If you have a single tank keep an eye on what 1/2 tank is visually until you are sure the gauge is working correctly. I would bring an extra gas can till you are sure. I first filled my tank and then ran it to 1/2 tank then refilled it and it took 7 gallons so I know that it was accurate. I also have a flasher unit that is accurate when going fast so it warns me before a slower rising bottom bites me. If you do find yourself in to thin water I trim the motor up quickly and chop the throttle before the rpms rev up. This will give you a better chance of not ripping the lower unit off as the boat drops off plane. Then use the trolling motor and get to deeper water after changing your shorts. 

Art

7 hours ago, AKRISONER said:

Any tips on driving a bass boat? Im pretty darn cautious and not one to rip it full tilt very often, but from what Ive read around the internet, this set up will do mid 50's with a half tank of gas and the livewells empty.

Thats a little different then the 29kmh my tinner topped out at lol.

With the motor trimmed all the way down accelerate till it is solidly on plane. then trim the motor up watching your RPMs when the trim is correct is when you stop gaining MPH or the motor rpms jump up due to prop venting. This is the most economical running speed. Now If the boat starts to porpoises trim the motor down until it is steady or you can increase the RPM to set the boat on the pad. While running on the pad the boat will feel very responsive to turning which will give you the ability to make moderate course changes easily and smoothly. For a full speed run once on the pad runn the RPMS up to maximum RPM of the engine minus 200 RPMS and then try trimming it up  to see if the RPMs increase. Trim the boat a small amount down till you get back to the RPMs as before without porpoising and add the final 200 RPM back in   In rough water you will need to keep the trim down and ride heavier on the mid to front of the boat. The danger of larger boat wakes is real and when approaching them it is better to approach them at a slight angle NOT A CROSS ANGLE and be ready to reduce the throttle  the boat usually will respond quickly to a throttle chop so be prepared to decelerate. I would say if you have a friend with a bass boat go out with them so you can feel how it feels in different maneuvers. You also should upgrade your life jackets to high end high speed rated jackets with 4 buckles and a collar. A  engine kill lanyard is a must and if it really is snotty I will wear a motorcycle helmet for the head/wind/eye protection.  

Art  

Changing filters regularly will save you more than You think. A dirty filter means more run time on the cycle as well as keeping the coils clean. In the summer the AC if you have one up North the dirt mixes with the wet coils and the heat exchange suffers promoting longer run times. In the winter air flow that is restricted can over heat the heat exchanger and cause early failure as well as poor circulation in the house. Replacing the filter every two months is not to often especially if you have pets or burn wood. Both will clog the filter quickly. 

Art 

15 hours ago, BassMan11 said:

Art that makes sense. So if I wire in another battery in parallel do I need a selector switch or can you just wire everything directly. I did a quick drawing of what I think it would like like without a selector ( I can’t draw)  Batteries are both 2017 CT AGM deep cycles with similar production dates  

 

Also I have a hydrometer but they are sealed AGM batteries. 

 

Edit. There is a fuse from the rocker panel as well. 

your drawing is correct they are both charging as well as feeding the panel.

Art

As Dan D said if you measure all of the amps being drawn by putting the amp meter between the battery and the load as you turn on each item it will give you an amp draw for each accessory. After turning each on and off add up the numbers. now turn on all of the accessories at once and it should be the same number. This is know as the load on the battery. The load on a battery is the amps on how much reserve you have. So if yo u have a easy numbers 500 amp battery and a 10 amp load in theory you have 50 hours from 100 percent to 0.  If you have a second 500 amp battery it becomes 1000 amp hours drawing down at 10 amps or 100 hours. Kind of like feeding an outboard motor off 2 gas tanks it will take twice as long to reach 75% of the fuel on the gauge. This keeps you in the 12-12.6 range of the voltage twice as long. A battery just unplugged from a charger should read 13.2 13.4 after 1/2 hour it should read 12.6 as the final charge. Voltage testing is not as good a test as a battery hydrometer  

Art

Thank you for sharing your adventure with us. 

Art

Nice fish and a warm place what could be better when it is snowing at home.

Art

I think a shooting range is an excellent place to go and practice. We have 3 in the area that cater to all forms of shooting with one that has a  300 yd range for the big caliber guns. The cost for a membership varies one is $200.00 and the big caliber is $600.00 which has quite a few more amenities. I have enough land here to have a really nice pistol range that we can shoot up to 50 yards for sighting in rifles. All in all it makes for a good time for a group of us to go out back and shoot different weapons that we own. 

Art

53 minutes ago, BillM said:

Art, that jet boat sounds fun.  Any troots down there? 

Not so many trout only the small fly fishing versions. 

We have Snakeheads, Channel Cats, Blue Catfish, Stripers, Small and Largemouth, Perch, Blue gill and varieties, crappie both, and very limited walleye. The boat is a custom built outboard jet drive. It uses airboat controls where you sit about 4 ft from the bow and on the left is the stick steer and the right is the throttle. The motor is above the bottom of the boat and it needs 1ft of water to get on plane and not suck up rocks but on plane you need 4 inches of water. It is a blast to drive and you can run through the rapids with usually no issues. The bottom of the boat is 8 gauge or .16 of an inch. It will take a pretty good punch but I did rip the transom seam out once and a few assorted battle scrapes on it. I had to jam a nerf football piece in the hole to get back to the dock. (a great thing to keep on any boat). A hammer and a body spoon with a tig welder made it good as new. 

Art

Match the boat to the water and style you fish most of the time. I own 4 boats one is a 28ft twin 318's aluminum marinette that lives in the water and holds 8 people comfortably. One is a 18ft Ranger bassboat that trailers from lake to rivers in both Canada and USA. I have a jetdrive aluminum john boat 20ft for running shallow rivers and rapids. The final is a pontoon 10ft that fishes farm ponds and fits in a pickup bed. Each boat has a body of water that it spends 90% of its time on. No boat will fulfill all of your needs so pick the body of water you most often fish and get the boat that you like to fish from. Casting off of a deep V is not near as easy or enjoyable as a bassboat but trolling from a bass boat is not as easy and enjoyable as a deep V. . Down here there are few deep V fishing boats because we rarely troll for the species we have to fish for. I am in luck because we have stripers that come up river from the ocean so trolling is available and anchor fishing for 50 lb blue catfish makes owning a 28ft cruiser viable. You can usually hang around a boat ramp and ask people about how there boat fits into their lives and see how they set it up. I am sure that an offer to split costs and a great lunch might get you a day on the water with a new friend. 

Art

The companies  have a list of what my gas appliances are and they plug in what my BTU use is. They have a program that measures the temperature and estimate how fast I use it by how cold the days are. So far I haven't run out in 24 years. If they do the same thing you can give them an updated list of your appliances and the recalculations should take care of the problem. I also own my tank so I can get a better price and shop around if needed. By owning you can control how many gallons you wish to store. 

Art 

I would run a bass boat around granite before a deep V bottom it drafts less on and off plane. I use mine at lake Nipissing but to be fair I have been there 6 or 7 times. Now get me in open water and the V hulles win. I also have a jet boat aluminum boat and don't kid yourself they will pop a hole on rocks just like a fiberglass boat. They however are easier to repair and cheaper.  The ease of fishing a low side bass boat is worth it's weight in gold for me and after fishing both the  bass boat wins formy style of fishing. 

Art

Better mental health care and the ability to react to the warning signs is needed. As this unfolds you will hear the same story from friends and family of the broken home and the social media posts that were red flags ignored. As far as the whole gun control stop wishing for a magic answer it isn't there guns are here to stay. No amount of rules is going to close Pandora box. We can't even get rid of alcohol or tobacco no matter how much we regulate it. In fact we have even raised the price to the point of stupidity and they both still fly off the shelves. Fixing the people is a reasonable approach that has a possibility of helping this situation. 

Art