Who won the war of 1812?

[holdfast]

Dawg, what a great Question. Thankyou for giving me a platform to enlighten some Canadian History. I know not your intention but here it goes.

 

http://www.battleoflundyslane.com/

This Battle is a controversy. The Americans seized the British/Canadian Cannon ( so they won the Battle) But the Americans had to go back to the States as they had no supplies. The British/Canadians recaptured their cannon. We figure we won. Tidbit.... The French settlers were considered Canadians back then Sadly the grave yard is a little fenced in area surrounded by infrastructure. A neat place to visit.

 

I know one thing, the Yanks lost at Queensto Heights because the American Militia found something in their clause that stated they couldn't fight off American Territory when ordered by the Regulars across the river.. That was when The Americans invaded crossing the Niagara River fighting Brock. Thing was they were afraid of the Indians (Tecumseh) that were screaming across the River. True story. We done the war following the Battlefields as our Military Professional Development. Of note, there is a huge statue of General Brock looking across the River to the States and depending what angle your looking at it from. Hes giving you guys the Finger. (Actually I think hes pointing) Somewhere around Queenston heights. No slag there, but it was the tour Guide ( Historian that brought it to our attention). Unless its changed. Tecumsehs memorial is a little ole rock, but without him we'd be American.

 

 

 

 

 

At the start of the year 1812, the regular army had a few less than 7,000 enlisted men in it It’, as Peter Bud Porter had said, the standing army was the sword of the Republic and the militia its shield, the sword was little more than a dagger, totally inadequate to invade Canada. For this reason, the Madison administration made the mistake of trying to use the shield for cutting and thrusting, a function it could not perform, since it was a defense mechanism only. For its first thrust, the strategy makers sent Brigadier General William Hull to invade Canada from Detroit with a small army of mixed components. The Ohio militia with Hull refused, on statutory grounds, to cross into Canada Hull had developed a deep distrust of militia during his service as an officer in the American Revolution, and militia action once again shook his confidence. For this and other reasons he surrendered his force to an inferior one on August 17, 1812. When tried many months later for cowardice and other military crimes, he testified that his failure had been due in large part to the rawness, lack of discipline, and insubordination of the militia. 25

 

 

Quote from the History of the Militia Truth be told they were afraid of the Indians

 

That militia was completely unsuitable for invasion was illustrated also at the other (eastern) end of the Ontario Peninsula. There, Major General Stephen Van Rensselaer, New York militia, led 350 regulars and 250 volunteers across the Niagara River on October 12, 1812, making a defendable lodgment on high ground at Queenstown, Canada. He had three men to the British one, but most of his force was still on the United States side of the river. It only remained to bring them into the fight to win the action, but the militia refused to cross into foreign territory. No more regulars were available to cross because their commander was unwilling to be subordinate to a militia officer. The senior militia officer over the men who had crossed, General Wadsworth, turned the command over to Colonel Winfield Scott, U. S. Army, but nothing could rescue that detachment from surrender save reinforcements, which did not come. 26

[Stoty]

It was the war of 1812.......who cares!

 

All I know is the "war" of 2010 in Vancouver on the ice...no-one stands much of a chance against Canada!