moxie

Worked sewer and water main for years and the odd dump and/or spill should be no big deal but with corruption and various governments kicking the most of important cans down the road this is the inevitable outcome. The majority of cities and towns will run main trunk lines in valleys and ravines and in case of catastrophic failures gravity will take it out to sea so to speak.

With Toronto's condo boom still keeping pace along with the crumbling oval combination brick lined sewer lining the underground I'm surprised dumps/spills don't happen with more frequency. Maybe the best is yet to come.

Never been a fan of caviar anyway.

enjoy it. doesn't last long.

then there will be the next thing to enjoy.

Best comment here. Look at the bright side. Pain, hunger and the need for comfort is the trifecta and the more kids you have the better you get at figuring out what to do and when to do it.

Yep. No ones knows the true crap. Some of those people crap themselves.

Or they all do, even if they carry a colostomy bag.

Funny how when I spew about politicians or other Pubic Servants that directly affect us in our own yard I'm looked upon as some kind of " tin hat wearing , wound up too tight, name calling fool", but when people follow crap happening within some crap forsaken border that has happened for eons and can do absolutely nothing about but regurgitate crap fed to them by bonafide crap generators that do nothing other than produce crap for crap eating people who think they are actually learning some useful crap or raising their IQ with a head filled with more crap than you can shake a crap stick at, I'd say your at least worth your weight in crap.

It doesnt benefit your average person but it certainly benefits the .1%

You'd think so but remember skirmishes have happened foreverbut a world war would most certainly have us facing a touch more radiation than in a conventional theatre. They do live on the same planet.

No one is going to do anything.

Exactly. Merely posturing and a world war benefits no one.

People may come and go but memories last a lifetime. Sorry for your loss Mike.

At least they aren't citizens of convenience and need to be airlifted out of a danger zone they knowingly placed themselves in only to return when the dust settles. Seems rather punitive and invasive.

 

I hear they're going to shoot it down using F-16's armed with failed presidential candidates!!!!

Funny indeed but not the best of ideas. Politicians almost always miss their mark.

Done with this one. Good as trash to me. NEXT TOPIC!!!!!!

This is the best idea in this thread. If it's an essential service everything is settled by arbitration and there doesn't have to be months or years long death-by-paper-cut negotiations.

 

The gov would likely never do it though.[/quote.

 

 

Is it really? So were gonna throw it into the hands of an arbitrator who doesnt look at what compensation will cost us but instead base his/her decision on past numbers or what other competing CBAs' receive, just like they do for police services? They need to abolish.government unions altogether. Public sector union. Its an oxymoron. Theyre the best fed pigs at the trough. Time has come they have a template for production where raises and/or bonuses are awarded and rewarded to reflect performance and service excellence instead of " We want what they got..... waaa waaa waaa". Whos GD money is this anyway? You want more? Earn it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hows that little ditty go again? Those who can, do. Those who can't.......

 

 

 

 

News flash!!!! Estimates as high as $4.6 million to teachers union for Pizza And Hotel Rooms!!!!! It is never ending. Thats cool though cause i'm the uneducated one

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Not really. Not into axes. I prefer running over things multiple times and then snapping a slug into it and thats before i have any idea what im faced with. What an Ultra Maroon.

Not if you were unionized!!!

Correction. Not if youre a Unionized Public Employee. I'm unionized and i can guarantee that if i started trouble with either the shop or my employer i'd be black balled by both. Only those in the governments pocket seem to have the ability to skate where others would surely fall through the ice. Suspended with pay especially makes my stomach turn.

Many variables associated with fishing but one thing is for sure and that is that no matter how unfavourable conditions might be fish have to feed. Only question is will you be there when they do.

Fishing to the point of monotomy? Trips of a lifetime. Great read. Thanks for sharing.

Moxie. That was an uneducated and rude post.

I am a teacher. I invested in my future with five years of schooling at a cost of about 60,000.

I could have been working like my buddies were for 30,000 a year.

That put me behind them by about 200,000 - but it was an investment in my future and I don't regret it and am not whining about it.

I am not going to tell you my job is harder than yours - I have never walked in your shoes. I have a great job. I love it. But like all jobs, it looks way easier from the outside. Ask my students parents and they will tell you I work hard and go beyond expectations for their family.

I never whine about my job.

What I do hate though is having my contract negotiation and "myself" being misrepresented in the press. The facts are right now that OPSBA has been refusing to meet with our union and purposely stalling. Of course they are offering us a ridiculously slashed contract so far (not the same as the high school teachers got btw - that's a lie) - but that's just good bargaining tactics. Now Kathleen is swooping in and finishing the plan by imposing a deadline when we, all teachers, have been wanting to talk and compromise all along.

Don't believe everything you read in the media. Teachers care about class size and kids greatly. Do they care about themselves too - dam right. I have taken benefit cuts and pay freezes or "raises" that were actually below the cost of living many times in my twenty plus years teaching. Nobody, including you Moxie, wants their family to move backwards.

And I ask you this - do you really want to strip away Health Care and Education bit by bit until we have what the Amricans have - a two tiered system where the wealthy send their kids to private schools and get immediate service when sick while the rest are stuck with second rate schools and hospitals.

As stated, I like my job a lot and I am proud to help families raise their children BUT I am strongly encouraging my children to steer clear of teaching. Why would I want my daughter to invest years of time and money to land in a job where the media and many community members will automatically assume the worst of her and insinuate she is not a hard worker. In twenty years will their salary and benefits even be worth striving for. I worry they will not.

I realize this is happening to other "middle class" workers too and it's wrong. Big corporations and government officials are not feeling the pinch like you and I. The gap is growing bigger while the increasingly poor bicker amongst themselves Take a step back - the middle class that most of us are part of is disappearing. You are getting poorer a tiny bit each year with pay freezes and climbing housing, gas...prices.

But I am not whining about my job - I love my job. And I put my all into it.

The number one thing that irks me about those that teach is that they automatically assume others are uneducated, especially when its their ox that is being gored. Simply a cop out Just because you may well be the brightest bulb in the box of dimly lit teaching bulbs does that mean that every one of you must rape....er I mean reap the same financial rewards because a public union(Conflict of interest) deems it should be so? My uneducated mind must be missing something.

About tiers in health and education. Sorry to inform you from my uneducated point of view but i'm afraid they already exist which is another aspect of a contradiction in terms. Why must we pay out of pocket if there is already a system in place. Maybe due to the fact our publicly financed institutions are falling well short of expectations. Even to an uneducated mind they would seem to be second rate.

When speaking about compensation I would appreciate it if you refrained from insulting our intelligence. The media can spin any yarn they wish. The numbers do not lie.

Regarding the "Middle Class". We all pay taxes and I would like to see public hangings take place when they are mismanaged but am I to understand that if it costs me more to prop up the public service I will be better served by it financially? At this rate you remaining a part of the "Middle Class" will mean my demise from it.Sacrifice the many to save the few. Probably another one of my uneducated guesses.

We are paying too much for a system that is too fat and carrying a lot of dead weight. Tired and broken on many fronts and it is time for an enema. That I am willing to throw hard earned tax dollars at.

Until teachers and the rest of the public sector understand we are in this together things will never get better. I have a great deal of respect for the institution that is Education but I'm afraid it has become anything but .

I apologize for any uneducated perspectives in this post. I now need to go out and purchase another keyboard as the drool has rendered this one inoperable.

No doubt there are exceptional people in all aspects of public service and i realize the challenges they face for wnatever reason but when there are contract issues the bottom line is always money. Me me me. Mine mine mine. From where i sit that doesnt square with me especially when its public money. Many of us in the private sector work very hard as well and in many cases have been doing the work of more than one employee for years and consistently see taxes far outstrip and monetary gains while services are cut and incomes in public services continue to rise far above what we can afford

Rude, mean, offensive? Bad Moxie!!!!!! I dont apologize for having thick skin. Ive conditioned myself to watch out for my own interests. Just as public employees have. Id frankly love to see the day when most public agencies are privatized and compensation packages are based on performance instead of whatever scheme they use to justify the excess we have seen for decades.

Dont take it out on me. Follow the money.

The Moxie guy always is taking shots at our best. Firefighters, nurses, teachers, etc....He has a severe chip on shoulder. Too bad....

 

Personally have been very disabled for years and these nurses, doctors, paramedics, etc have saved my life and are usually funny, smart and kinda cool.

My best friends are teachers and they work long and hard days responsible for 30 kids or so.

Nice shoulders on that fish. Way to go guys.

This Green Scheme is all a sham. Take a look at the environmental destruction that has and continues to take place world wide. Does any thinking person really believe we can stop this let alone reverse it? No "Chicken Little" but ask yourself realistically.

Its a redistribution of wealth and one by one the worlds once stable economies have and continue to fall. North America is the next casualty. So if you have your dirty little hands in this so called "Green Initiative", take our money but don't try to justify it by professing its to "help heal and/or save the planet for future generations" because you are a part of the problem and an active participant in the destruction of western economies.

investors play both sides and gain regardless and governments do their bidding while we quibble about whose right or wrong. One thing is certain and history proves it. Most of us ain't very bright and are easily led. Just depends on what is dangled in front of us in place of a carrot.

When most are hanging up the fishing gear and later. Would be better served if you can test it on the water as testing an outboard in a driveway wont tell you how it will perform on the water and tough to tell if there are and leaks in the hull. Good luck.

Another fine example of well paid mediocrity in the public service.

Like ive stated before. My fathers stay in Critical Care will hit the six week mark this coming Monday. Some nurses have been both professional and compassionate and deserve to be held in high regard but im afraid most have been an embarrassment to the institution of health care and public service. Rude, condescending, disrespectful, but worst of all, indifferent. Its a high stress situation and with short staff it must be difficult but is it asking too much to just "Zip It" and do the job to the best of your ability instead of acting like you're doing us a favour?


Public service seems to be a place where tenure is rewarded in most cases over performance and that leads to the mediocrity and the entitlement we see today across public service.

You can blame whomever you choose but in the end I'm paying you very well to do a job, do the best job you can and if you cant handle it find something else cause I'm sure there are plenty in line waiting to show what they are capable of. After all you are just a number as I am. Nothing more.

Almost forgot. To Ontario's Public Employees. You jumped in bed with the Uncles Dalton and Kate to get what you wanted right? Now they wanna play rough and we are made to suffer? Shame on you. Grow up.

Congratulations and much success.

crap, I'm agreeing with Moxie.

 

I'm going out for some fresh air!

Don't do it Steve!!!! There isn't much room on this ledge but the view from up here is simply extraordinary.