manitoubass2

thats very impressive kite fishing!

I love my blueblockers

awesome Simon! Looks like you had some fun.

The weather is for the birds isnt it?

Congrats, what superb catch!!!!!!!!

I'm not a first responder nor have any formal training at all (wife had wilderness first responder training but that's neither here nor there) and I believe the stretcher is protocol for possible neck and spinal injuries. Isolate the head to avoid any possible problems, most accidents I've seen the person injured is put in a collar and a strap or tape put around their forehead and secured to the litter. If there's a member here in emergency response, they would know for sure.

 

I hope the players look at what's going on and decide that enough is enough and that pucks in the net win games, not brutal hits.

Yep, thats just protocol.

and that's the problem with Torres. He could have chosen to stay on the ice and deliver a different hit but no, he had to launch himself and thusly rendering total loss of control of where his mass is going. Stay on the ice and maintain control. He could just as easily have moved left and still given Hossa a hard hello. Torre's a loose canon that needs to be declawed.

 

Ok, I've watched the video a couple of times and I do believe Hossa was headed for the bench. You can see another player start to climb over when Hossa gets hammered.

Man oh man, I wasn't even aware of the other suspensions he has received outside of last years playoffs.

I'm not surprised now, that so much attention is surrounding him.

He needs a reality check of his own.

shakeyhead/worm combo, jig/grub, jig/minnow, or bass style spinnerbait

13 FOW on the west side of an island on NW Bay, Rainy Lake

I can already see it in my head, and it's magical!

We land 30 walleye over 30", and everyone limits out on eaters.

I get home just as my girlfriend cracks open my beer and hands it to me

We enjoy some company/stories from the adventure, and after a few more cold beers and some fresh walleye, my lottery number hits and the pot is 30 million.

I'm so amped for opener!!!!

no, some were shoulder to head, most were shoulder to chest, and the ones that did contact the head, as u mentioned, were legal hits then... but, also were not what stevens was targetting it, they were usually due to the size difference in players he hit, of the result of players skaing while looking down, putting themselves in that vulnerable position.

 

and even now, with the head shot rules... u can still contact a players head with a check, AS LONG AS, it it not targeted intentionally, and is not the main point of contact on the hit.

Yeah, I forgot about the intent to hit the head aspects.

For Stevens hits I should have mentioned also that I'm referring to some of the more memorable hits, but yeah, I don't see intent to hit the head.

I know he had TONS of clean, hard hits in his day as well.

Whenever him or Rob Blake were on the ice, I was always watching closely for that big hit to come.

watch Stevens hits.

Almost all of them are shoulder to head. That was a legal hit then however.

But yeah, Stevens hit on Lindros today and thats a big suspension

Here is a good body check, lol

Oh my!

Thats a great catch for sure

I'll be anxiously awaiting your report/pics from your travels

Try any of the Spectra braids, but the sound made when passing through the guides won't be better - probably worse. Maybe look into the "lower stretch" co-polymers, fluorocarbon or Berkley Nanofil if you're trying to avoid the noise - although, I am not sure if the Nanofil makes any noise or not.

A little bit when under tension, hardly noticeable though

try tuff line duracast

I second that

You'd think they'd schedule maintenance when the water is hard, huh?

Yeah, one would think that would make sense

Does it say when this app will be availalbe again?

Thanks

The end of April is when it says it will be available again, with upgrades

I guess I'll be left waiting anxiously until it's available again

Crosshairs,

Throughout your involvement in the FN commercial fishing and tracking the data has there been any voiced concerns over targeting spawning fish?

I'm sure you can understand where I'm coming from here. If you harvest fish and promote the protection of the resource (which is paramount), it would make sense to close fishing for the spawning period.

I still don't like the method of spearing fish and guessing the gender, but at least the overall numbers are much smaller than netting. But a method where untargeted fish could be safely released would be very respectful towards the fishery.

Where I live (RRFN) there isn't a closed season in which I am aware of, even for the walleye spawn. But out of respect for the resource and the creator, you won't find people targeting spawning fish.

Anyhow, thanks again for taking your time to contribute to a valid discussion

Thanks Drifter, I already had that link but it wasn't showing the right apps.

Turns out, in small print in the news section, that as of april 11 the marine apps are not available, they are under maintenance

Does anyone know if the iphone navionics app has been discontinued??? I can't find it in the store???

Also, any suggestions for apps that are useful to an angler/outdoorsman???

I have wrote down some of the suggestions from a previous thread

Thanks for any advice!

and thanks for the added input crosshairs,

But I'm going to strongly disagree with you on the topic of identifying walleye gender.

And it's not that I'm saying Natives shouldn't target females alone, but under guidelines and the protection of the fishery, neither should be targeted during the spawning period IMO

Conservation of the resource trumps everything.

At least that is what is written in the agreements.

But I am not the one to say if the resource is hurting because of the acts of the local Natives

Just make sure you bring a repellent with deet ,bugs hate it,go enjoy yourself,let us know how the fishing is!

Fishing won't be very good if you got Deet on your hands,lol

Make sure to wash good before touching your lures/bait

There nets can catch 50 to 100 fish daily and they are allowed 4 nets.

I have seen a boat pull in with nets and coolers. Coolers heald over 160 walleye. Mixed in were bass, pike, sheepshead, and perch.

 

They set up an assembly line and process the fish right in plain view. Some who are registered will take it to the processing plant on reserve.

 

The commercial harvest target is about 46,000 kg a year, but it would be 66,000 kg if the fishery was at its potential.

 

 

 

One point I made earlier is that I have been offered and saw live walleye swimming in an aerated chest freezer. Now that is just plain illegal unless "you are on reserve" .

The 4 net rule you mention there, is that for residents of the reserve? Or for commercial fishing purpose?

Also, I'd like to hear

thoughts on how anyone is determining the sex of the fish before spearing??? Are they guessing based off size? Or is there some other method I'm not aware of?

That's part of the issue as well. In the past, natives didn't use halogen headlights, neoprene hip waders and factory made metal spear tips.

Back then I'd assume using a hand-made spear, while hunting by torchlight and standing in the lake in the beginning of April. Might be a tad bit tougher than today.

Don't even get me started talking about nylon gill nets, boats and outboards.

 

I have no problem with native traditions and rights continuing, I just think it would be more in-line to have them use traditional methods as well.

The traditional methods would not include much of spearing IMO, but rather fashioned nets made with pounded wood. I could be wrong as to the specific band/tribe, but I doubt it. Traditional methods of hunting and fishing were to use the easiest, most efficient way to harvest the animal or fish. A traditional Native would not have purposely harvested female fish during a spawn, as it goes against everything they stood for. Same reason as I would think that spears were not used for fishing purposes.

What is being done here I think is learned ignorance. That is the only way I could see them using a poor method of catch, during a spawning period. If I'm right, this is probably something that is relatively new, and not traditional.

Thats the only way I can see it, because it makes no sense at all.

And those limits need to be dealt with, 20 fish per day is too much, regardless of the method used.

I agree with the points your making though, it's a tad absurd to use such methods to catch fish.

Edit: I'm wrong. Certain tribes indeed spear fished as a main source of food. I'm speaking with a local Elder and he says fish that were easily smoked were the main targets(suckers/sturgeon). Which I guess makes sense as the food would be easier preserved for longer periods.

Nipfisher,

I didn't mean for that post to make it sounds like you weren't educated on your home waters, sorry if you took it that way.

I can totally understand your worries towards your fishery, I'd be offended as an angler if you didn't, lol.

What I meant though, was that there are tons of little laws in the Indian act that alot of people are not aware of, it's def. not common knowledge.

One thing I want fellow anglers to understand, is that a status card IS NOT providing a right to abuse the fishery. I know alot of people believe that "status" allows Native Americans to fish and hunt and keep whatever they want, and thats just not true. Of course, some of this stems from ignorance of the laws on all parts, including CO"s.

It is my understanding Nipfisher (and I may be wrong?), but under the Indian act, a reservation may NOT make by-laws of their own in regards to the preservation, protection and management of fur-bearing animals, fish and other game on the reserve;

And the means of harvesting fish must be done in a manner that doesn't harm the fishery, nor abuse the resource.

So yeah, anyhow, I think your totally in the right here for being concerned about this issue. I think it's wrong of them to target spawning fish, with a spear nonetheless.

I'd be making some phone calls if I were you to see what can be done. Native or not, this is not productive to any fishery, and is blatant overharvesting IMO, by a means that does not respect the resource.

Nipfisher (and others).

When fish are being harvested in a negative/harmful manner, it can still be reported.

I'd suggest making some phone calls and asking questions to the right people, and getting educated on the laws. So you know what means to approach to protect the fishery.

Just because a person is Native, does not give them the right to fish with dynamite, so to speak.

I know this is a touchy subject, but alot of this is based on ignorance.

But it is, since the laws differ depending on race.

 

 

 

And by that thought process, everything is correlated to race.

The rights that Native Americans have were given to them by the Canadian Government. So whether or not you accept it, it's a issue with how the fishery is being handled by OUR Canadian government.

I get what your saying, but thats an issue you should take up with the correct channels.

and where I live, given the example you gave, both guys are in jail and facing charges for resource abuse

Sure it is.

 

A white guy and a native are wading through spawning walleyes with pitch forks and headlamps when a conservation officer shows up...

 

How does the night end?

 

 

Thats a lawful issue, not a race issue.

The thread is about the fishery and overharvesting