manitoubass2

Proenneke went there already a skilled outdoorsman.

 

I think Manitou is more looking to send a city slicker into the woods, which would be awesome!

Yeppers

and thanks for the link to that Drifter, that was a very enjoyable watch!!!!

I'll be out on Rainy River and Rainy Lake. Heading up to Mainville in 2 weeks as well

I'd like to see that show of a weekend fishermans journey to professional angler, especially if it had a good blend of behind the scenes content.

I would also watch a show where they take a guy and place him in the wilderness, give him a small cabin and some tools, and film an entire year of trying to survive in the wild.

grrrr, I was just setting up the camera as the moon slipped behind some clouds.

Nice pic Twocoda

Thanks for that Sinclair!!!! That was awesome.

I lol'd hard at this.

I've done things like this a ton of times. "hey kids, wanna go crawfishing?" hahahaha

Nice crappie, and it's always lovely to find tackle you had forgot about!!!

and Country Mike, lol

Really good drinking tunes!

To all those that loved the Beastie Boys, You should check out some of their side projects that alot of people were never familiar with...

my personal fav Beastie Boys tune besides So Whatcha Want

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLFlW3UaQuU

Manitoubass2 ,I am never going to say that steroids are not valuable in medicine. They have definately helped many for treatment in many applications. As for my experiences with the other athletes around me at the time I can't say that their personalty changes were from the steroid use or just them acting that way because they felt more aggressive because they believed they were tougher by using them. I do not know what type they were using and didn't care as it was their decision, all I could say is that having known these people before, during and after their use I noticed different personalities and levels of aggression. I can't attribute the reasons for it but the timing all lined up with their use. No worries about anyones comments here as this is a tough thing to understand as most of us could never imagine taking our own lives (myself included)and I hope the thought never comes across any of our minds. I will remember Junior Seau as the player he was as he really beat up on my Raiders when he was in San Diego, great linebacker and was heavily involved in the community from what I had read about him. I really feel for his Mom after seeing that news conference, it is interesting that he is the 8th player to pass away from the 94 Superbowl Chargers.

Thats a great post, very logical.

The last sentence is troublesome.

Kickingfrog, I can understand where your coming from as well. All my kids (exception of my youngest daughter) all play sports. I'm worried too.

Me and fishgreg had a good discussion about kids and concussions as well...

Im not familiar, but you could easily see some inspiration on other artists.

RIP

Been doing too much of this lately

I loved all there tunes, but I loved, absolutely loved having beers and playing their instrumental stuff. They had like a hip hop jazz thing that was just awesome to chill out to.

Kings of New York, I doubt there is anyone in New York that wasn`t influenced by Adam

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=NLFlW3UaQuU

I have played football and were around people who did use steroids and there was a definate effect on their personalty and the infamous " roid rage". I will agree that under the direction of medical personal and dosed correctly that steroids will have little effect but these people taking them as amateurs are not under proper supervision and are not dosing properly. They are following the direction of dealers essentially, not trained professionals and are causing damage to themselves as a result.

 

As far as Junior Seau is concerned do I think steroids had an effect, no but I am also not a medical professional. This man spent 20 years in the NFL as a linebacker experiencing impacts similiar to that of a car accident repeatedly on a daily basis. All of us who played football would have experienced that slight blacking out for a few seconds after a good hit before your vision and recognition came back if not yo never really hit anyone that hard. Now imagine that at an NFL level, I was a fan of Junior Seau and he was a true gentleman of the game. I can't imagine what he was experiencing to drive him to take his life but I know it could not have been pretty if it was enough to take him away from his children. Lets hope none of us have to experience what he was experiencing, RIP piece Junior.

This is coming from someone who lost their own father to suicide and its not as simple as being a coward. I don't think it is a very easy decision for someone to take a bullet at their own hands.

Some very good points here, especially on the `coward`aspect.

Funny how you can notice `roid rage`though, when it`s a clinical anomaly. That being said, there is a distinct difference between anabolics and androgens, there ratios etc. What many people believe to be `roid rage`` is more often a psychological issue.

If one becomes moody and irritable, it`s usually from prolactin and progesterone, and other estradiols. Anabolics typically offer a sense of well being and calmness.

But certain steroids do increase aggression, but there hard to obtain and the aggressiveness ` is usually due to very high androgen content and binding affinity. These are not typically prescribed medications.

DHT based steroids are very different in action then anabolic type steroids. One reason professional athletes stayed away from androgens was that they often left joints feeling very stiff and dry, due to their lack of aromatization. They also have very short half lives and then, chemist altered the drug to extend half live via methylation. Methylation means it would bypass first pass metabolism in the liver, which would then make them mildly toxic. Not enough to kill you, but enough to show stress in liver values. This happened in the early 80`s, and is old news by now.

Again, I`m not trying to piss anyone off here, I`m just trying to educate and debunk very common myths

Also, before you condemn these compounds, maybe you should look into how many lives they save. AIDS patients, burn victims, the elderly, the list goes on...

Oh yeah, many a cancer patients as well, something I would think many on this board would appreciate, although it`s still very unfortunate set of circumstances.

and that bottom part is not directed at you express168... Just so you know

Fish stock is just a broth, a cooking base for adding other ingredients too.

For me, it will be the liquid part of the risotto.

But yes, I know it's just a broth, and can have many other uses.

Smells good in the house right now, can't wait to use it (the fish stock)

Blaque, I didn't take any offense to what u said, and didn't see it as nasty in any way. Ur actually bang on with ur comment. Only junior seau knows why he pulled the trigger, and no matter how much they dig, or probe his brian or make "educated" guesses, its still all speculation, only he knows for sure... And he won't be telling us anytime soon.

Totally agreed with you and Blaque. I took no offense at all to this thread or his posts

If you add the flesh from the start, you will have mush by the time you are done. Better to have nice chunks of fish in your chowder instead of mush.

after I fillet them there will be no meat on them(for the most part).

I'll heed your advice anyhow, just getting things going now

The Crappie fillets is getting fried up tonight for supper.

The fish stock is for risotto at a later date

Beastie Boys Check Yer Head is still one of my all time favorites.

RIP

Very innovative man, very humble and quite the funny guy...

Very cool.

 

I would of never thought you would catch Greyling there. I would be thinking NWT.

 

Thanks for sharing.

I was thinking the exact same thing!

Awesome report and pics! Thanks for sharing

If you think it gross you may want to stay away from Worcestershire sauce as well.

Controlled fermentation in sanitized conditions is fine by me. I use Lea & Perrins, and it's legit (according to How its Made) lol.

Fish stock for soups and chowders is simple. First fillet fish and set them aside for later. Remove head and tails, and place them in a 2gal pot of water. Add 1/2 tbsp salt, 6-8 whole allspice beads, chopped celery, parsley, onion.

Set to a low boil for 1-2 hours, or reduced to half of volume. Strain through a fine mesh sieve, cool, package and freeze.

 

Fish heads always make the best stock, as my Gram always said.

Thanks dood!

Is there a reason why not to add the entire fish(sans gills/fillets)???

Futile debate. The only Individuals that could even HOPE to diagnose the happenings of all this are his close friends and family and personal doctors. All the rest is just guessing

Be nice is the mods could relocate the other discussion into a separate thread. I think it's great discussion other then the fact we veered away from JR Seau.

I thought I'd post this before I go on an adventure making my own fish stock for the first time ever.

Since that other thread really grossed me out, I wanna make some instead of buy some (even though it's not fish sauce, thanks BB!)

I have some really nice crappie to fillet up today, and I wanna make a stock, about a gallon. The plan is to use it later on for some walleye risotto.

If anyone has done this before, id would be nice to get some tips on seasoning etc.

Since I've never done it before, I was going to follow a simple recipe off the internet, then see how it turns out. Then I can alter it from there if needed.

Thanks in advance for any input

I seen it done on the Discovery Channel about a year ago.....

 

They took ANY kind of fish they could get....if big they would cut it up in smaller pieces.....throw it in a HUGE round concrete vat and cover it for 1 year in the sun....then after one year they would open up a spic-it at the bottom of the vat and let the nasty stuff run through a filter and into a bottle....and there's you fish sauce...

and then they call it fermentation... lol

Totally friggin gross.

I had a friend give me some homemade fish sauce once, he said he used anchovies/salt and thats it. It was good in very small amounts, had a nutty flavor to it.

I'll never buy anything off the shelf now however...

Thats so cool!

Sounds like an amazing adventure, now go rest up so you can catch us some more fish porn!!!!

Just so people know,,,

When a clinical, double blind placebo trial is done, it is essential every side effect/illness/ailment is documented.

So what you end up with in many cases, are a list of side effects and possible issues that may not in fact be directed towards the drug being studied.

So a person/company/reporter can then use that information to spin it in a way they feel benefits them, or gets their agenda across, or get a drug to the market etc.

So unless you really understand pharmacology, it's very tough to make a valid point about the use/misuse of a compound, because you can show a study that proves anything you want it to prove, but that doesn't mean it's correct.

It's just you're discounting everything I have produced.....but that's what makes the world go around....

 

Now I not saying concussions were ALSO not a part of it, as I'm sure it was...but also abuse of steroids could be a contributing factor...

 

I guess you're just living up to your handle "master debator"...

 

And you should know you can't reason with a Redneck....

BB, I'm not trying to discount you. Earlier in the thread, I typed about how my concussions effected my ability to get my thoughts across in a manner that can be understood, lol.

But it is a discussion of knowledge vs. opinion, so were bound to clash on our thoughts/experiences.

Again, alot of times, I either come off as an , or people can't understand what I'm saying, and thats not what I'm trying to convey at all.

That is one of my lovely little symptoms of my concussions have left me with