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  1. When it is legalized I would like to see the age of majority for purchasing it higher than for purchasing alcohol which was 21 until the year the age of majority was lowered to 19 and I just happened to turn 19 that year, or was it 18 in 72? Can anyone remember that far back? Regardless of my change in attitude for smoking weed, 19 is too young. I know what the rebuttal is "they are going to get it anyway". I am known to change my views when presented enough fact. My wife says it because I am a Libra, I say I'm mature enough to recognize when I'm wrong and admit it.

     

    If weed will be available from the Black Market for less dealers will still stay in business. Just as are illegal cigarettes and booze now.

    I agree, and disagree. The science just isnt there(and thats why i agree to an extent)

  2. Scientific studies have shown this but what the heck do scientists know?? Better to listen to some guy spouting off on a fishing forum!!

    This is nonsense unless your familiar with studying compounds.

     

    But its you view and I can certainly appreciate your free speech.

     

    In all honesty, alot of double random blind placebo studies need to be done, to come to better understanding of marijuana.

     

    So many variables based alone on how many active components are active in marijuana, and then add to that the many different kinds, potentcy of different strains, indica and sativa, growth methods, delivery methods, age/sex, etc

  3. F10. What's that supposed to be, old man? lol

     

    I'll agree though, the original in a long line of anything is usually the best or near the best for a reason. Too many bells and whistles usually do nothing but raise the price. But they need to come out with something new every year to please the shareholders (note: I have no idea if Rapala is a publicly traded company)

    Yeah I mentioned something similar aways back. Not gonna be a successful corperation just producing 4 or 5 old lures

     

    I wont be adding this one to my arsenal I know that much

  4. Any smoke has carcinogenic properties, so I understand where you are coming from.

     

    In studies done with rats, when their endocannabinoid system was blocked they developed massive tumors. The study authors inferred that the interaction of cannabinoids and the endocannabinoid system protects against the formation of tumors.

     

    While there is a dearth of research on the subject due to class 1 scheduling in the US, there is certainly evidence that marijuana may play a role in treating cancer (beyond the already noted value of increasing appetite/relieving nausea on chemotherapy patients).

     

    If any other substance was discovered to have these properties it would be hailed as a huge breakthrough. However, because governments are invested in prohibition and incarceration, and marijuana cannot be patented, there has been a long history of resistance to even exploring its medical value.

    Absolutely.

     

    Also of note, blocking the endocannabinoid system doesnt just cause tumours, it caused cancerous tumours in the liver

  5. Marijuana smoke, suggested by studies, the cannabinoids somehow negate negative effects on lung tissue and cancer cell growth.

     

    Although on paper, it contains roùghly 50% more tar than tobbacco, in comparison, marijuana smokers smoke far less than tobacco users.

     

    Marijuana use shows no signs of increasing cancer nor does it effect the pulmonary system.

     

    It can cause temporary bronchitus that regulates itelf upon quitting, or temporary COPD.

  6. Check out the credibility of the organization before you cite them. Anyone can belong to the ATS as long as you pay you're membership fee. You're not reading a study by the AMA or Scientific American here. If you pay enough money to a research group you can come up with any conclusion you want. The ATS has been accused of being influenced by interest groups.

     

    https://books.google.ca/books?id=KUfvQpxRfo0C&pg=PA136&lpg=PA136&dq=Credibility+of+the+American+Thoracic+Society&source=bl&ots=bIsgrlqz5G&sig=GVtNwQEwy9TZRYaA-KyqvXEn9Hk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwisydCDrZPLAhUGqR4KHazZATkQ6AEIRzAI#v=onepage&q=Credibility%20of%20the%20American%20Thoracic%20Society&f=false

     

    The tobacco industry funded studies like that for years too.

    Search pubmed. You find alot of similar studies

  7. I can see it now, high speed chases where the Cops are chasing Cheech and Chong doing between 20 and 22 KPH, and signalling lane changes.

     

    I am one of those that has changed my view of those smoking the Sacrament. Do what you want and when, just do it responsibly in the privacy of your own home. And don't invite Abby Noxious. Now having said that I know more than a few 50 and 60 year olds that are addicted to it, not many but they certainly are addicted, no doubt in my mind. They have to fire up a big blunt as soon as they touch their feet to the floor in the AM and just before they hit the hay at night. My brother being one. He is 56 and has been trying to quit for 25 years.

    Hahahaha.

     

    Yeah marijuana is addictive, but I wouldnt say its highly addictive.

     

    When I went through some studies(which are pretty loose) the number of users a physiological dependance on endocannabinoids was around 9%

  8. DUI did not increase, just the enforcement. Someone who does not smoke pot is not going to suddenly decide to get stoned and drive because weed is legal. Anyone who will do that is already doing it now.

     

    Secondly, you are wrong about tobacco being equally as damaging as pot. Dr. Donald Tashkin, professor of medicine at UCLA oversaw the largest and longest longitudinal study of its kind. That study concluded that rates of lung cancer did not increase, even with moderate use over long periods of time. You can read more about Tashkin's work here if you're into facts:

     

    http://www.atsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1513/annalsats.201212-127fr#.Vs8l80XEjCQ

     

    Excerpt (I had to use OCR text recognition, please forgive any typos):

     

    Regular smoking of marijuana by itself causes visible and microscopic injury to the large airways that is consistently associated with an increased likelihood of symptoms of chronic bronchitis that subside after cessation of use. On the other hand, habitual use of marijuana alone does not appear to lead to significant abnormalities in lung function

    when assessed either cross-sectionally or longitudinally, except for possible increases in lung volumes and modest increases in airway resistance of unclear clinical significance. Therefore, no clear link to chronic obstructive pulmonary disease has been established. Although marijuana smoke contains a number of carcinogens and cocarcinogens, findings from a limited number of well-designed epidemiological studies do not suggest an increased risk for the development of either lung or upper airway cancer from light or moderate use, although evidence is mixed concerning possible carcinogenic risks of heavy, long-term use. Although regular marijuana smoking leads to bronchial epithelial ciliary loss and impairs the microbicidal function of alveolar macrophages, evidence is inconclusive regarding possible associated risks for lower respiratory tract infection. Several case reports have implicated marijuana smoking as an etiologic factor in pneumothorax/pneumomediastinum and bullous lung disease, although evidence of a possible causal link from epidemiologic studies is lacking. In summary, the accumulated weight of evidence implies far lower risks for pulmonary complications of even regular heavy use of marijuana compared with the grave pulmonary consequences of tobacco.

     

    Can you provide a link to any of the studies you have read? I would like to review them further.

     

    Thanks.

     

    Dutch

    A search of pubmed shows similar studies and results.

     

    I dont believe for one second marijuana is anywhere near as damaging as cigarettes.

     

    And many cannabinoids do have supplemental benefits

  9. Because it won[t be that simple. If you look at the U.S. states that legalized it all kinds of problems pop up that will require money to solve. DUI's go through the roof for example and they need to train cops to recognize the driver thats under the influence. The training requires money and eventually equipment. The increased health care that will eventually be required because of increased smoking (pot isn't any better for you than cigarettes) will require money. Legalize it if you want but usage will go up and that will cost money. I shouldn't pay for that increased cost.

    Pot and ciggerettes have the same health effects????

     

    What pot are you smoking?

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    I guess I should have said that the Catholic church has cleaned up its act re anti-semitism esp. since WW II. The same cannot be said about some sects of Islam re their attitude towards 'infidels'. My post was intended to nip any expressions of anti-semitism on here in the bud. You seemed to imply that the Jews were themselves to blame for anti-semitism.

    Enough blame to go around.

     

    Just for the record im not an atheist.

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