scuro2

Was that Planet of the Apes theme music that started of your video? That was a very appropriate choice.

Question? How did your self described environmental freak guy graph Co2 levels back 600 million years ago?

They can estimate co2 levels by analyzing actual co2 in ice core samples but that only goes back 800,000 years. https://scholarsandrogues.com/2012/01/28/csfe-co2-in-800000-year-old-air/

That is why the co2 level stops at 800,000 years ago in the graph below. The correlation looks VERY STRONG between atmospheric temps and co2 levels. How does your freak-guy explain that?

 

Climate change is not a hoax, we have in fact be getting warmer for several hundred years, long before any CO2 emissions from human activity could add to the trend, there is data out there that suggests that over the last few millennia that climate change and CO2 levels don't even track together.. Lots of other factors can contribute to warming .

LOL...show me the graph that CO2 and climate don't track together.

It all depends when you go...the lake is so shallow that the SW end becomes too warm say mid-July. As soon as there is a heatwave the SW shuts down. You would have to boat up around fossil island then to get into "deeper" water. The weather is so unpredictable that you really won't know if it like early spring or summer till you get there. A temp gauge is key as is a GPS...it's a big lake.

 

YES!!!!

The planet is badly over populated as it is.

20 or 30 million a year would probably help better though.

A large reduction in the population will do much more than a few billion dollars to reduce global warming, green house gasses and pollution. Not to mention the strain on the oceans fish stocks.

Eugenics is the answer!!! Why mix the good seed with bad seed? Why burden the productive members of our society with the poor?

....er wait we tried that already here in Canada...and they say it went horribly wrong in Germany.

You have drunk the Koolaid...

 

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Speaking of having drunk the Koolaid there are incredible number climate change is a hoax believers on this thread, just saying!!

Not directly, but it opens the flood gates in other legalities in the big picture.

 

We all know this. Take one thing, move on to the next.

 

It never goes backwards with government, ever.

Flood gates....oh my! Police state...lock up your women and children!

It's a slippery slope spiraling downwards to hole that you can never get out of...in the end there's the end. 400,000 years ago some caveman came up with a law not to kill...and now we have Wynee!!! Slippery slope my friends. slippery slope!!! Freedom now MB2 FREEDOM NOW!!

Upon conviction 6 demerit points like with drinking and driving or passing the school bus with lights flashing. In all three cases poor choices can lead fatal accidents. I wonder what insurance would be for an 20 year old guy with six demerit points?

An excellent fish by any standard!

I like how you snuck in that jab at yourself

...I would classify your cognitive skill of insight as being highly exceptional. Way beyond the norm!

It's really sad how some Canadians are resisting to believe that they need change to their lifestyles and saying that Canadians aren't part of the problem. An easy solution would just be to not have kids, use up what's left of the natural resources and say good night to the world.

 

We say we don't need to be a leader in the solution because we aren't a big problem anyway, but how's this? Can we finally follow the big boys and at least try to destroy the planet a little slower?

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-07/china-approves-over-15-billion-of-green-debt-in-pollution-fight

To me it is more honest to say I'm totally selfish so deal with it, then to to not invest any thought or time into this and blow it all off as a hoax cause that's fun!

Science is the same as religion. You personally observe what little evidence you can with your own eyes .... then you get the opinions of a bunch of other people (both living and dead) ..... then you make some assumptions about the data, run some tests, and draw a conclusion. Or in most cases, you just choose to believe what someone else is saying.

 

Science and faith are identical.

 

Evolution vs. creation .... climate change vs. no climate change .... what's beyond outer space .... is there life after death?

 

We. Don't. Know. We are incapable of knowing. We simply do not have enough data. So, we guess. People tend to have really strong convictions in these areas and spout on about how 97% of scientists say this, or that, or whatever. All we're doing is choosing to follow the beliefs of others. That's not necessarily bad, but we should recognize and admit that our convictions are based in faith, and not fact.

 

Its interesting that throughout history scientists have been wrong more than they have been right. Its also interesting that some of the greatest breakthroughs in astronomy, mathematics, geography, and medicine have come when a few individuals went against what everyone else believed was proven fact.

 

How would you feel if the government created a bill that said, "97% of theologians believe the end times apocalypse is coming in the next 75 years, so we are going to tax the people $7 billion to build anti-demon weapons".

 

That's the EXACT same thing as saying they'll tax the people to fight against global warming. Maybe demons are coming, maybe they aren't. Maybe global warming and climate change exists and will destroy the planet, maybe it won't.

 

Now, with all that said, I strongly believe that there are plenty of observable and measurable real-time environmental impacts from pollution. I support the government using legislation and tax payer money to reduce pollution, both at the individual and corporate levels. But don't tell me I have to heat my house with expensive electric heaters because your precious scientists think my gas furnace is killing the planet.

That is another incredibly well thought out bit of reasoning. Truth is a challenging thing to grasp. I'd buy everything you stated if you ended with the conclusion it is time to act but to get to where we need to go we need to do x instead of y. You didn't offer a solution.

Electric cars powered by clean generation may have a cost, but it's not as high as the cost of maintaining the status quo.

That is the first highly intelligent thing I have read on this thread!

That is a thing of beauty...I can see why you are admiring it.

http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=280

Interestingly the ICSC is run by Executive Director: Tom Harris, B. Eng., M. Eng. (Mech., thermofluids), Ottawa, Ontario, Canada; Phone: 613-728-9200.
He left his phone # on the website, so LIF and MB2 if you have a phone plan give him a call. He's looking for new members and the guy sounds smart, Al Gore wants nothing to do with him apparently!!!!

MB2...you can also register as a climate scientist who disagrees. May be you could drop that percentage to 96%!!!
"If you are a someone who has professionally studied the causes of climate change and you would like to add your name to the below list of scientists who endorse The Register, please click here. http://www.climatescienceinternational.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=346&Itemid=97

That Tattoo would also work for Evolution, JFK assassination, moon landing, flat earth....it is so you!

I AM TROLLING YOU I do NOT agree NOR disagree with that number(97% of climate related scientists)

But whomever polled these scientist I applaud you! Seems like a daunting tasks if I say so myself...

Now, lets see some more graphs. I am partial to the ones in grean and blue, reminds me of the enviroment Oh and red is good too(indictive of heat)

Frig Im just gonna draw some graphs

Lifeisfun, it is good that you finally got your denier website out of the closet. Nothing subtle about that website, it's so....FLASHY!!!!

Troll away MB2, even deniers have to have some fun in their day.

But I gotta tell ya I'm going to rub this denial thing up one side of yous and down the other. It's like shooting fish out of a barrel. You guys have the hook soooo deep there is NO SAVING YOU. On the other hand I like that consistency because whatever I show you, no matter how conclusive the evidence, you won't accept it. That is loyality in spades.

Just for fun I checked into the stats on the number of Scientists who disagreed with the theory of evolution. Those nutters are called Creationists and they believe that man and dinosaurs existed at the same time!!! The number of scientists who disagree with Creationism is about the same # who deny man made climate change. Are you both Creationists?!??? I'm thinking may be!! If you were Creationists I would apologize and leave you alone. We would part as friends sharing our mutual faith in God. May be we would even fish together some time in the future.

 

Yeah busting chops, I get that,...but a denier u r!! :)

I'll spell it out for you, if 97% of climate scientists agree on this, it don't matter why, but anyone who disagrees is a denier.

Think of your workplace. What could you get 97% of your coworkers to agree too? For the males at your workplace you may not even get 97% agreeing that b00bs are good.

Best would be if industry that spewed it paid for it but that aint working. In fact they would rather fund deniers.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dark-money-funds-climate-change-denial-effort/

"A Drexel University study finds that a large slice of donations to organizations that deny global warming are funneled through third-party pass-through organizations that conceal the original funder"... add to that money funneled to American politicians by the likes of Exon. Exon doesn't deny, pinheads like this deny and they are funded big time to say these things.

 

Did ya like my graph for you on the last page???

 

I hope you realize Im just having fun and busting your chops?

 

I am not a "denier" lol.

 

But I do believe we need more research, better strategies and moneys from a multitude of areas(and clear cut reports on who what where when and why, when it comes to spending)

 

None of this should come from tax payers dollars. The only contribution we make is usage(and a vast majority of that is forced upon us).

 

So if the corporation of Canada decides to spend, tax and expand the sciences, they should be held responsible for those actions.

 

Not us, the citizen.

 

Hey scuro, how do you stump a geologist?

 

(Just kidding, do not answer that/inside joke)

Yeah busting chops, I get that,...but a denier u r!! :)

I'll spell it out for you, if 97% of climate scientists agree on this, it don't matter why, but anyone who disagrees is a denier.

Think of your workplace. What could you get 97% of your coworkers to agree too? For the males at your workplace you may not even get 97% agreeing that b00bs are good.

Best would be if industry that spewed it paid for it but that aint working. In fact they would rather fund deniers.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/dark-money-funds-climate-change-denial-effort/

"A Drexel University study finds that a large slice of donations to organizations that deny global warming are funneled through third-party pass-through organizations that conceal the original funder"... add to that money funneled to American politicians by the likes of Exon.

Just for you bud, a graph that shows NOTHING! I'm even throwing a bone to MB2. It's a great graph for the deniers!

 

And once again you are out to lunch with your explanation of poll like this.

But nothing you claim will not surprise me anymore so keep going, it's fun!

I have admired the deeply hidden intelligence within your posts for some time now. Call me a fan. Such simplicity of thought, could you say it any better?

The people of China are aware, change will happen.

I think we all believe climate change exists, after all the it rained last night.

Now if we are talking man made climate change I think you would be wrong about your assertion.

Are you having fun with me again MB, my my you are playful. Riddle me this, if I have a thing because I posted three times about Trump, that would mean there are some full blown cases here with all the posts about Wynne!! I'd recommend against a scientist looking into it because that is part of the delusion. Those scientists are in on it!

He comes across as a fool, totally without direction or thought.

I have to agree with you. He is brainless, the ideas are all scattered, he mumbles. You can see him reading off the teleprompter and the whole audience is embarrassed laughing nervously. It's a good thing Obama the idiot is almost done.

Trump will be such a refreshing change. He challenged the mayor of London to an IQ test after he called him ignorant. He tells us he is a genius, it must be so!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4