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Thought they were tryin to prove Tide works in really cold water

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Beaut Specks Doc Unfortuanately I have to Hate ya now

I'm not a lawyer----and Even though I told myself for the 3rd time to bail on this circular argument----I'm going to write again with a note of caution--I'd be very careful posting anyones names on that crime on the net Remembering they were young offenders at the time---could be messy for you Look the leftie did a good deed.

OK Bladeburner says..... Alcan Yup I'm convinced??---although no one seen a Native steal his truck---because it ended up at 6 nations it must have been A Native job It's like the vandalism that says "Praise Allah" on a war memorial---gotta be Muslims Like the John A statue that says "Native Land"---gotta be a Native job No way some trouble maker knows how to stir up racist trouble by implying a certain group Unless someone has pictures and definitive proof---Your pre-conceived prejudice rules you and your opinions---and I'm glad your not a judge

Sometimes it's hard to believe Maybe I should start a new thread....If I want to look into making a tinfoil hat---Reynolds or Alcan?? So much of what I read here is subjective on "ALL" sides Oh look....A chief from Osoyoos says this....Chief from Attawapiskat says this---6 nations did this......Must apply to the whole scenario then....Right??? Well look in the mirror.....Clifford olsen did unspeakable things----does that mean all middle age white guys do as him? Robert Picton did what???---are all pig farmers murderers?? Osama Bin Laden killed many....are all Muslims like that??? Anyone want real time proof and evidence to reality----go spend the rest of the winter in a place like Pikangikum---or many like it Drink it up----24-7 for a minimum of a year----come back with an informed opinion---not what the crowd at the Tim Horton's beats up round the table The internet is great-----info to back an argument at the touch of a mouse---for any side of an issue Like the gun issue----You can't tie this up in a neat bow---give a pat answer and put it in the corner---There Dealt With. I was going to be done with this here a while ago----and watch opinions come and go-------matters not in the big world But this last answer is to say one last time-------think outside the box---or is trolling and being argumentative your kick for the day (Like the couple guys saying all stolen cars in the Golden Horshoe end up in 6 nations----well newsflash---I knew some folks from Hamilton who bragged of insurance jobs back in the 70's---take a car to the RES--set it on fire--guess who gets the blame??---called insurance job) Cause for EVERY dumb thing a Native has done----there's an equal one for every race---so posting a so and so said this or did this is narrow minded

Peer pressure from The great Oz at the NRA

Two Yups here Yup TJ---It's about moderation---believe Doc Sal eluded to that as well And Yup not sure who's out there tryin to take guns away Now AGAIN---high capacity magazines---not necessary

Ok this is beggin for this story---apologies for the sidetrack for a sec Years ago my boy put an 8 pointer out to me out of a spruce swamp-----he surprised me as much as I him---about 80 yds I had room for one shot----Bang Nothin??---did'nt see him or hear him run away-----so Off I trudge to see---I thought I missed I dropped him in a hole---he went zero steps----now his spine was twisted a diff way but I won't gross out the non-hunters But I learned as a kid how to hit those running deer--and some of the secrets to use There are practice methods as well I always taught my son-----Make that 1st one count---it will get tougher after that----so we always worked within that 5 shot arena.---those big mags----not compensation for education Actually after the war of 1812---my ancestors were retained by the crown to teach new settlers how to hunt---fish and live in this environment So it kinda is inherited

Hey Doc___Yur back Good to see ya and hope the fish'n has been good

Cool We already have background checks Art I recently renewed my Possession/Acquisition You need several character witnesses and a spouses sig Then the rcmp takes 2 mos to check you out before you can even buy ammo

I also believe P3TA is a pain in the pants In well over 50 years---I have'nt had Martians stop my fishing/hunting and I also have not had P3TA stop me So I"ll take 50 plus years Alex----Not worryin about either Just seems like the last straw some make to instill fear with their so called gun control message is to cry--P3TA is gonna tell the gov't to stop hunting/fishing Talk to the ministry---not happ'n

Sorry Rich That does not affect what we do here one bit----and after 30 years of ads---still has'nt Would'nt lose any sleep about P3TA harming your fishing Now overfishing and pollution----different story

Seen a good t-shirt "Meat is Murder----Tasty, Tasty Murder"

Some true points Never any evidence it was P3TA that changed the MNR's mind though directly though----Just P3TA gets dropped for a fav excuse from gun control to shore lunch That spring bear is a difficult discussion---if your only after furs---maybe should go to the trappers Me--no never been a bear hunter

P3TA is now 30 years into the game and has had zero impact on what I do or how I do it Continuing to use them as a threat is tiring and ubstantiated--although I would like to meet Pam Anderson The current talks on assault weapons has obviously come about because of the horrifying incidents at Newtown and Colo etc..etc...etc Those high capacity mags are the target---if your fumbling to change clips----even a few lives may be saved---or loons may be overtaken

Believe this guy has seen enough to speak with some authority on the issue

Well I've known many excellent outdoorsman throughout the wildest places this country had to offer None of us ever had a handgun and yet we survived I've finished off many animals with my rifle----never an issue Being prepared and life experiences allow you to get by-----I guess it's getting to be a lost skill in Today's Rambo world

So if your not hunting deer or squirrells---what are you hunting?? Or at you at war with someone Does'nt your military look after homeland protection??---so would'nt guns just be left to hunt deer and or squirrells

It will soon be 40 years I've been hunting---and Have been very lucky/successful over that timeframe My opinion----and it's field tested If you need more than a 5 shot clip to hunt----your no good at it and should quit Never found a reason to hunt with a handgun either----guess it's hard to sell paranoia that way though Gotta go hide my flies now before the man comes

Lets see---I've attached links from---ex-Pm's---Farmers unions----authors-----reporters---Pam Palmater---gave personal experiences I guess if you wear blue coloured glasses---it does'nt show up?? I think I was right in the 1st place though---in giving up on trying------Much of this hatred runs too deep and my energy is better spent on other items This is getting too much like I'm supposed to sway prejudice by me doing the research and those that just wish to argue sit back with age old pre-conceived notions--and fire by reflex My advice-----if you want to form an opinion----do your own research--and not let someone else form it for you---at least you will own it.---like try to pay attention with your own eyes and not what comes in a newsletter. Well Mitch and Ruby Greene----thanks for the good times I had in my youth on the banks of the Grand River--and that homemade corn soup-----I tried I guess the world really has'nt evolved as much as we had hoped. Good night Mrs. kalabash

Well Blarg I won't copy your long winded pontification---once is likely enough No doubt that you hail from The Conservative backbenches Again as we are discussing Idle No More----You bring up Attawapiskat spending You may have seen that note I made a few posts back where distractions make it easy for Longshanks to continue digging while diverting attention from his own agenda---it's all good Nice touch throwing gun control into that rant and communists also---ya got a two fer But I guess when opposition parties/Environmental Groups/Farmers/Fishermen//Outdoorspeople etc. etc. all say that budget bill will deplete environmental protection---they're ALL WRONG!!!----yes!! Thankfully someone nailed it!!---you can be right---so glad we finally have the answer Do you live near Caledonia?? I do notice that you chose to just submit opinions though without back-up---it's all good---proof is over-rated Congrats on being right-------

No Problem Manitou B You know I read somewhere about Paul Martin's interest in this matter stems back when he was young working around Hudson Bay---He saw the conditions then and it stuck with him I, like you have seen it 1st hand-----and it does leave an impression That's a real time review

I have been asked to continue...... I read this article today in the Ottawa Citizen Stehen Maher---postmedia In September 1915 the federal government went to the Exchequer Court of Canada to seek an order to force the eviction of the Mi’kmaq from the seaside Kings Road Reserve on the outskirts of Sydney, Cape Breton. Former Sydney mayor W.A. Crowe testified that the Mi’kmaq had to be moved: “They are hardly over the nomad state yet. This is an anomaly in my judgment that in the centre of a city which is the size of Sydney that there should be two acres occupied by Indians in that spot.” Chief Joe Christmas said his people didn’t want to move. He said his people “do not like to live away from that place. It is handy for their work, and they have a good schoolhouse and everything is complete, and we have good doctors and good agents and good teachers and the children go to school every day.” But they were bringing down property values, as William C. Wicken explains in his book, The Colonization of Mi’kmaw Memory and History, so Justice Audette ordered that they be evicted. “No one cares to live in the immediate vicinity of the Indians,” he wrote. “The overwhelming weight of the evidence is to the effect that the reserve retards and is a clog in the development of that part of the city.” The Mi’kmaq were moved inland a few kilometres to Membertou, to a bowl of swampland that nobody wanted, out of sight and mind, where they lived as second-class citizens in a community of tarpaper shacks and outhouses. In 1971 a young man from the community, Donald Marshall Junior, was wrongly convicted of murdering his friend, Sandy Seale, in a Sydney park. Marshall spent 11 years in prison, where he was disciplined for loudly proclaiming his innocence, before he managed to show that another man killed Seale and was released. In the summer of 1993, Marshall went fishing in Pomquet Harbour, caught 210 kilograms of eels, which he sold for $787.10. He was charged with fishing without a licence, but claimed in court that he had a right to fish based on treaties from the 1750s. The case went to the Supreme Court of Canada, which ruled for Marshall in 1999. Mi’kmaq immediately went out on the water to exercise that newly restored right, fishing for lobster, which fetches a better price than eel. This almost set off a shooting war in Burnt Church, N.B. To avert the crisis, the federal government sent officials around to all the Mi’kmaq communities, and the chiefs bargained hard, winning fishing licences, boats, gear, training and money. In Membertou, Chief Terry Paul and band CEO Bernd Christmas were determined that Junior’s legal victory would make a difference for the community, and they were ruthless at the table. They put the money they won from Ottawa with money that they wrested from a pipeline company after winning an injunction against the National Energy Board, which had approved a project crossing their traditional lands without consulting them. “It was like a one-two punch,” Christmas recalled this week. “It was great at the time. We were using the system to get to where we wanted to be.” They used this seed money to develop businesses. Membertou now has a casino, a mall, a fancy restaurant and a convention centre-hotel complex. Nobody in Sydney would now say the reserve retards development, since the band has $112 million in revenue a year and employs 700 people. Cape Breton-Canso MP Rodger Cuzner said Cape Bretoners are proud of Membertou. “I think people are impressed that they are able to find a way through themselves,” he said. “It’s seizing those opportunities and making the best out of those opportunities and not squandering them. I think they’ve developed a certain degree of acumen.” Membertou was able to do these things because it had the power to do so, because the courts forced the federal government to honour the treaties their ancestors signed. First Nations had power when they signed those treaties, but over time the Crown came to ignore them, and aboriginals were powerless. That powerlessness was at the root of the abuse at residential schools. Aboriginals couldn’t say: No, you’re not taking my child from me. They couldn’t travel freely, own property, vote, organize politically or get a fair shake from the courts. Those days are done, thanks to people like Marshall, who used the justice system that wrongly imprisoned him to enforce his people’s rights. People on both sides make a mistake when we think about our relationship with First Nations as a zero-sum game, where the Crown has to yield something that will cause the rest of us hardship. We are better off when our neighbours are prosperous, and they will be prosperous where they have the power to win access to resources and the acumen to use those resources wisely. Across Canada, aboriginals are demanding that the Crown recognize their treaty rights. The prime minister has committed to work with them to do so. We’ll all be better off if they succeed.

I'll actually bow out now Art---Pretty sure I've done what I can do It's gettin to the point where no matter what info from varying sources are provided---those feelings won't be swayed here---too entrenched I'm lookin at your sig here above as I type and see that name Lincoln----he tried to do what was right---look where it got him Adios