greats thanks for the tips fellas, had a few follows but nothing was hitting, nothing worth using the bat in the camera for, wasnt a waste of day, it never is ..fish or no fish, it was time well relaxed, my co-worker/buddy did hook into a few carp and a few cats, ...
today i am going out again, going to use my 20$ purchase from ebay see how they work out for me, look forward to posting and reporting something decent!!
Once again, thanks for all the advice fellas....Bud