Salmonidstalker

Always amazed at what some do to catch a fish. Lol.

I'd rather have the headache dealing with the insurance provider getting another vehicle rather than dealing with the courts for manslaughter or 2nd degree MURDER!......but that's just me lol.

So people who steal should be put to death??? Justice should be blind not stupid.

This is what I suggested in another thread here. But like you said, even if they put it on paper you can probably wipe your butt with it. Chessy, I'm sure this is power no one can stop but if you care about that river, protest it. Do whatever you can to not have Atlantic's put in the Ganny. Daryl Choronzy warned us long ago about what Atlantic's would do for our fishery. Not many believed him or wanted to jump on that ship including myself. In the end, he was right.

Well the bad news is the mnr does not care about your opinion. And the real bad news is that the Ganny will suffer severe consequences with this program in place. But the extremely bad news is we will lose a great fishery and fishing opportunities. But at least the river will be tree lined and banks will be stabilized......for 5 Atlantic's.

Now that the bring back the salmon initiative is losing momentum on the Credit, maybe they can start a "bring back the steelhead" initiative. A sad day for the Ganny.

Exactly Craig. Finally, someone understands. For the Ganny boys, I would fight this tooth and nail. Get the mnr to sign a waiver saying that other species will not be disallowed access through dam during the introduction of Atlantics. That would be a sign of good faith on their end. If they don't, well then it's quite evident what the outcome will be should Atlantics start reproducing or returning. We all saw what a few dozen returning Atlantics did to the Credit. Total shut down.

Ofah is heavily involved in the Atlantic program. They will have some say, believe me. Of course mnr has to be present as well. But you can guarantee they will slow fall migrating coho Chinook Browns and steelhead to capture and process returning Atlantics. They don't just run in the summer months. Numbers of Atlantics that returned to the credit showed up in September. Good luck.

How do you know for sure? If Atlantics gain traction on the Ganny, you can bet that mnr and ofah will be all over the ladder, monitoring it and slowing fish down. Do not trust the mnr.

A few thousand returning Chinook salmon, in my opinion, is pretty much a disappearing run of fish. But it's just enough to capture an egg quota.

Brian, you're a victim of your own environment. Aurora district is a mess. Go north to see what other mnr districts do to preserve and maintain their fisheries. They would laugh at what goes on down here. The main focus has been lost. And it costs nothing to let fish swim and reproduce. They are doing it the very hard and difficult way. It's a joke.

They are increasing quota as well to the West end so there might be a few more. But when you see 2-3,000 nooks total returning fish to the Credit, it is a waste. Enough fish to get mnr quota for eggs but those kind of numbers have nothing to offer anglers in the lake and in the river. Isn't that what we all want??? More angling opportunities!

Absolutely. Our limit of fish for the lake and Tribs are horrendous. Lake and charter boats destroy populations of trout. Time for a real change in regards to limits. Mnr is mismanaging the whole fishery. They are not held accountable for pour results.

their stocking practices are pour and their track record has proven this. (Brown trout stocking, Chinook stocking and Atlantic stocking) Which is why they are trying to change their ways. Bottom line, when fish can spawn on their own, fisheries will flourish.

Are you asking for proof that planting trees on the banks of rivers reduce temps and silt levels???

No, they are just a bunch of bozos trying to stick a square peg in a round hole. If I was part of any organization to go with the Ganny I would be up in arms. They will sell you on rehab and benefits for all species but in the long run its natives they want and everything else will be pushed aside. There are individuals within mnr and the political background asking why we even have rainbows Browns chinooks etc. and are pushing for all native species reintroduction.

Youre perfectly entitled to disagree. But when there are no Chinnies left at the Credit....which will be soon....they will move to the Ganny. I had my blinders on when the Atlantic program intensified on the Credit. We all thought it would benefit all species. Guess what, it didn't. And that is a fact.

The new direction of the MNR is focused on Atlantic Salmon and Brook Trout only. Everything gets a back seat as far as I'm concerned no matter what is done on behalf of other salmonids. If my home river was the Ganny, I would be concerned. Also keeping in mind the MNR is now shifting Chinook egg collection there as well, they will destroy that river like they did the Credit.

Uh oh. The Ganny could be the new Credit. I can see it now....,,No chinnies, bows, Browns, nooks or ho's above the dam because of the 5 Atlantics that return.

100% agree.

Good point. i wonder how many people go out with guides and not ask them to see a copy of their insurance. Not implying that Mike doesn't have any, but guides in general.

Drifter, what is the best way to get up to your neck of the woods? Just wonderin what it would cost to get there or to GSL? I'm sure the winner of this would have to make their way up to GSL themselves.

Perhaps if people bought a subscription of your initial copy it would get them a ballot for the draw. Not sure if that still is legal but it seems fair.

CB, you really don't need to understand. I was just curious to know if anyone knew if this was legal or not as I've heard that lotteries or raffles can be, as OIM stated, a slippery slope. And if I was Mike, I'd want to be sure it was legal. But that's just me.

Are private companies aloud to have "for profit" lotteries or raffles?