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Then why are we living 60 years longer on average?

 

60 years is a conservative estimate.

The environment and other things play a role in that as well.

Were no longer expending calories/nutrients to keep warm, or gather food etc.

Some studies (real studies, double blind randomized) suggest that if you remove all other factors, calorie consumption is directly correlated to the length of ones life. And on top of that, metabolism is basically whats killing you, slowly. Again, if you remove all other factors.

To discuss these topics at large, you need to realize the variables are literally, EVERYTHING.

That being said, there is no real answer, only more questions ala science.

But, I enjoy learning. I also like to be aware of the world around me. I might be alone here, but I'd rather die knowledgeable then die ignorant.

If we came to a conclusion on this discussion, it would be a world changing achievement, because we would have solved untold numbers of issues in our universe.

I don't think thats going to happen, but it certainly is possible. Especially if this thread continues for the next billion years, lol.

I guess where I was going with this was that yes, I avoid sugars and most of the other "bad guys", but for the sake of a small amount of nitrates or is it nitrites...... my weekly bacon fix will go on without too much concern. My grandparents on both sides ate their way through many a pig and many a cow in the course of a year and lived into their 90's. Of course they being country folk didn't eat the processed crap that some of us do today. So, I try to stay away from the processed crap and take my chances on the gene pool...just sayin'

Sounds good! lol

Does this include SEX...because I'm good tat those workouts....

Yes, sex is considered a physical activity, whether your good at it or not, I'd rather not see the evidence! lol

ok ok enough just need to know what kind of beer to drink with my bacon

Blue for me

COLD Beer......... My favorite is Labatt's Blue Light.

Yes, preferably cold. But I will drink a beer that is hot if I had too. Blue Light is a good beer!

Glad to know that we have a good population of dietary nutritionists on board.. ...will keep your comments in mind, for a millisecond, when I enjoy my Saturday morning full English. And again when I enjoy my next roast leg of pork. The Brit's will never run out of bacon, they will default on their mortgage before they give up bacon sandwiches.

 

BTW Joe, prosciutto rocks...carved thinly, by hand, off the leg....

Yeah, cause it definitely doesn't help to be informed, lol.

I eat pork quite often, I also drink alcohol, which is just as damaging as an energy source as sugars.

If we ran outta bacon would I be bummed? Yeah, I enjoy eating bacon.

Would I die? nope, not at all.

My ultimate goal in life is to live while I can, as good as I can. I'm pretty sure you have similar goals?

Your brain can also function quite well (some would argue better) on ketones, which are byproducts of fatty acid metabolism in the liver.

 

 

 

Again, that emphasizes the need for ingestion of healthy fats. They serve many roles in the body, such as protective sheaths around organs, production of steroidal hormones ei cholesterol, testosterone, estrogen, nortestosterone, and they play a huge role in healthy inflamation, which is then again correlated to protein synthesis, nutrient partitioning etc. Also for the brain to function.

Proteins are made up of amino acids. These amino acids are conditioned in the body to "create" what it seems fit, at the time of need. The body needs Glycogen? It makes it with amino acids. Time to sleep/recover/grow??? the body makes serotonin, then it makes melatonin to tell you when to sleep. Got an injury? Healthy fats start the healing process by controlling inflammation in a positive manner, then leucine is introduced to "rebuild" the muscle tissues surrounding the injury.

It's a very complicated, yet efficient and beautiful cellular system.

Corn syrup serves zero function in achieving health/function. It's a damaging cellular compound with no caloric benefit. It does help you eat more though, on the level that when your body isnt getting what it needs calorically, it wants to keep eating. It's the beginning of a deadly path.

I thought natural glucose was good for the brain.. aka unconcentrated apple juice in the morn works like coffee..

The brain uses glycogen to function, and within cells contains healthy fats that must be replenished to operate effectively.

Glycogen is obtained from proteins via glucogenisis. If you introduce a simple sugar artificially, the body adapts and will create glycogen for fuel use. Anything above what is needed will be stored, or converted to other metabolic functions, many of which are not optimal.

Glucose is not an efficient form of creating glycogen (well it is, but it creates unwanted problems)

Comparing coffee and sugar is a whole different beast. Caffeine is a stimulant, glycogen is a form of natural energy.

So, to begin your day, your goal should be to ingest healthy fats for brain function, and lean proteins for energy

Yep, for bodybuilders, this act is all about nutrient partitioning. Nutrient partitioning in itself, is either anabolic (building) or catabolic (breaking down. For them at least, remaining in positive nutrient partitioning allows for greater growth of protein based tissues (muscle).

Another funny thing (quite disturbing actually) is the relationship people have with what they ingest. Without knowing, they are in effect, taking drugs. Now that might seem totally off base, but really it isn't. Alot of food humans ingest is for the pleasure/reward system ie neurotransmittor response, and not for the original intent, which would be overall health and fuel.

The reasons people might "crave" sugary based foods has little to do with your body telling you it needs said sugars. It's the effect those foods have on an intricate level within one cells, and the effect these foods have on dopamine and serotonin responses. These provoke "drug like " effects within the brain, which is itself is somewhat addictive.

The bodies version of "needing" something doesn't come in the form of "cravings", it comes in the form of cellular shutdowns. An example of this would be hypoglycemia.

More food for thought

Keto is good to lose weight if you're inactive.

 

I time my carbohydrate intake to 1-2 hours post-workout for maximum insulin sensitivity.

 

And then it isn't bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, it's apples, strawberries, bananas etc.

This is the only time a person "should" ingest carbohydrates. But remember, "post workout" doesn't necessarily mean weightlifting. It would include any time after physical load ie cardiovascular type activities, or other physically demanding life events.

Simple sugars are the most effective at replenishing glycogen stores after physical events. Dextrose probably the most effective. Fructose is not very effective for this.

When insulin sensitivity is peak, the body is in prime nutrient storage mode. Its the one time where the only requirements should be lean proteins and simple sugars. The next meal after physical bouts, should again contain lean proteins, but focus on healthy fats, for many complicated reasons, but one simple reason is the prevent spikes in blood sugar, and slow nutrient partitioning to the bodies advantage.

One thing is for certain, humans need healthy fats and healthy proteins to live, and the quality of those proteins and fat are direct contributions to the quality of our lives.

Sugars are not needed, and never were. Glycogen is easily maintained by the body through glucogenisis. Using amino acids found in the ingested proteins, to convert them into usable forms of glycogen

That being said, I do ingest simple sugars after physical load because its my contribution to making my body more efficient in metabolism. Although it is not NEEDED, it does exhibit a positive influence on what I am achieving on a metabolic level

Sinclair has obviously done his homework. Your raising very valid points along the way. Good on you

Edit, sorry, I read that as Sioux Narrows

Olympic athletes are occasionally emblazoned on the front of a Wheaties box. To an angler, Wheaties are just a last option at breading for a good shore lunch.

Olympic athletes (shot put) often throw the shot 22 meters, even though the shot weighs a remarkable 16.01 lbs. Anglers are incredibly pleased with throwing a 1oz weight 22 meters, on 16lb test

I gotta disagree with the early morning comment.

 

I've never had a hangover so bad it stopped me from getting out on time.

 

I've been in the ice hut at 5am still hammered from a few hours prior!

Your not the only one!

But everyday???

Maybe the difference between and Olympic athlete and angler is his/her liver???

Maybe, just maybe, on occasion, anglers have the edge in perseverance?

Olympic athletes train everyday. Anglers prefer to, but are often stopped by nagging wives/girlfriends

Olympic athlete go to sleep early, and awake early. Anglers say there going to go to bed early and wake early, but the beer ingested often prevents this.

Olympic athletes often appear on commercials to promote their sponsors products. Anglers do this too, way too much, but only on certain channels/shows.

Olympic athletes are drug tested. Many anglers simply test the drugs

Olympic athletes wear shoes that took materials/testing to new levels. Anglers wear wet shoes of any kind, but prefer sandles.

Olympic athletes competitions are recorded by officials to record achievements , anglers impose their own governing body to report record catches.

Olympic athletes prefer to not take pictures of themselves in a manner which makes them look like midgets. Anglers would have it no other way.

Olympic athletes drink protein shakes to help speed recovery. Anglers drink coffee with Baileys, for no apparent reason.

Olympic athletes eat lean proteins to build muscle, and carbs to provide energy. Anglers cook everything in fat, cause it tastes better.

Olympic athletes chase the newest materials to make their equipment top notch. Anglers dont even understand technology, its obvious by the price.

Olympic athletes train in world class facilities in renowned cities. Mike Borger trains in the remote areas of the world, and every other angler awaits his return.

Feel free to add your own, just for fun.

I'm on my sixth protein shake (beer for me, polls for others ) I thought it migh provide a few laughs

Well we are finely tuned athletes......aren't we?!?!

Hell yes we are!

I think about it everytime I wake up with a hangover and a full belly. My training the next day consists of cleaning the house and planning my next outing. Nothing but, world class...

Not nearly as many times as you create polls.

 

 

I could never keep track. it's almost daily for me throughout the year. Sometimes it's 12 hours a day sometimes its an hour

Awesome Fish.I see nothing wrong anywhere in this report, but i'm sure someone wiil.

Yeah, it's a horrible outfit for an unreal photo op. Plus, whats with that dood in the backround??? Totally wrecked the image, you my friend, need a bigger net.

The netcam was great! But it wasn't mounted properly, plus, its way too cold to be musky fishing.

See all the vehicles in the backround??? I'm sure that GIGANTIC 52" MUSKY inhaled some dangerous toxins, shame on you!!!!!

Anyhow, just thought I'd get it outta the way.

Again, great fish, and I enjoyed the video!!!!

dood, you need a bigger net

6 other muskies were stressed to the point of dying while watching you land this "subpar fish" in your "subpar net".

Just kidding.

I take you on your word that you do everything in your power to fish safely, and release fish safely. I have zero reasons to believe otherwise.

Huge fish, looks like alot of fun! I'm jealous

I'd say average. Tons of great outings, my first taste of lakers, but the defining moment of this season for me? A two hour fishing period where I landed 7 walleye 30" or greater, and another 3 26"-27". I've never had so much fun fishing.

All in all though, very normal year. I did learn alot though, and just like every year past, became a better angler. And so did my children

I should add the best time of the season is at my doorstep, so alot of things can possibly change

Well, looks like I'll be watching alot of football this year ( when I'm not out fishing).

I really wish that fans of the game would make the owners/league pay, by boycotting the NHL for some time.

Some of this is just rediculous IMO. Like the salaries being handed out beforehand as previously mentioned.

Bettman vs Fehr, not a battle I really wanna watch for the next year

sweet pics Guys! hahaha

Dana, you look so upset at that perch, lol

Hey Lew, I have 6 around my house right now! I have no idea what they actually do, but the ones around our house appear to be doing the same thing as in your pics.

Beauty birds for sure, I love seeing them. This time of year, I'm not too sure what their doing, but the sure are active. Flying in loops, chasing each other down etc, very cool to see, especially so close to the ground

Thanks for the pics, much appreciated!!!!

Man that looks yummy Rick !!! Your kids all look like they are having a blast.They are lucky to be growing up in a paradise like that.

Thanks dood! It's my pops recipe though, all kudos go to him. My kids and I are always having a blast! Best thing about having kids? Your always doing things with your best friends, never a dull moment. And thanks, I appreciate where we live, every single day

YES PLEASE!!!

After two batches, were all out, sorry, lol. Maybe next time?

That looks really good, I've never boiled a fish before in my life. I may just have to try that. Thanks for the recipe.

 

Really nice fish your son caught there

I never had boiled a fish either, before I tried this recipe. It actually seems weird how fast it cooks, 4 mins tops on a rolling boil. The meat really tastes great though, you gotta try it.

And thanks, he was pretty amped. Didnt take him too long though to up that! He just landed a 35" in the danger zone. All the big pike are moving in one of our holes, where they ambush the big bass. It's actually a pretty cool thing to see, and a great time for us to search for the big ones (pike that is).

Nice fish, how long was it?

75", no lie, lol.

We had 21", 25" and then this one was thirty and change, but a nice thick fish from skull to tail, all around.

He later upped it with a 35", but that one went back to swim another day

I would never reel a swivel through the guides, lol.

I use a pretty short leader (when I do use one), usually around 14".

I tie my mainline to a good quality barrel swivel (I prefer Spro). I use a palomar

I use a palomar or double palomar when I attach the fluoro to the barrel swivel.

Anytime I attach two lines together, its uni to uni. Then I'll use a pretty long leader, really just prevnt retying a bunch of times throughout the day. IMO, uni to uni is pretty simple, but it becomes a pain in crappy weather while in the boat. I'll do it, but I'd just rather not.

Always moisten your knots good, and I find it helps to cinch the knot slowly, whereas some people really tighten it down hard and fast.

Well, after a thread the other day about pike, I got a mean jonesing for a pike boil. So yesterday the kids and I went down to the river with some nice eaters in mind.

Water was really dirty and cold. We fished the current seems in 6-8FOW, and a shallow rock break in the current that was 1-3FOW. We fished spinnerbaits only.

First two bites I had right away were keepers, 21" and a 25", perfect!!!

Then my boy wanted to cast around, as well as his sisters. I watched, took a few pics and enjoyed the scenery. After about 30 minutes my boy yells "snag". I look over, and start to walk. Then I hear line pealing, lol. "IT's a fish, It's a fish!!!" he yells. It's a good one too. He battled it like a true warrior, for a good 7-8 minutes before he landed the fish on shore. She was a beaut, a new personal best for him. This fish had some good shoulders too, boy was it thick!

Anyhow, I filleted up the fish yesterday using the 5 fillet method. We already had a pork butt in the crock pot, so I saved the pike boil for today. Boy did it turn out nice! I admit I overcooked the potatoes slightly, but it was still delightful. It's not an awe inspiring plate (or tupperware container in this case, lol) but the flavors are delightful.

Anyone interested in trying it, I highly recommend it.

I made two batches, one small one for me and the kids, and another larger batch for the local Native elders. Boy were they happy when I showed up with that food, and all either really really enjoyed it, or they did a great job making it look that way, hahaha.

Here is the recipe

One large onion, chopped into decent sized chunks, per three servings

2 celery stalks per three people, cleaned, halved then cut into small chunks

2 large carrots per person, peeled and chunked

2 large potatoes per person, quartered

2 northern pike fillets per person, sliced length wise, then cubed. Size depends on taste, I like about 3" long, 1" wide

Bring a large pot of salted water to a boil. Add potatoes. Cook for 25 minutes. Add celery, onion, and carrots. When potatoes are 4 minutes from being cooked through, add the pike meat, and two tablespoons of salt. Drain thoroughly after 4 minutes. Return to the pot, add 1/4lb of butter, per three serving. Put lid on pot and allow butter to melt. Add salt and pepper to taste (or whateve seasoning suites your taste) and serve.

I highly recommend serving with fresh fry bread(which we didnt do this time)

A nice cold beer helps too. Oh yeah, we caught a big frog too! lol

smallie from about a month ago. I think we even had a few smaller ones, but no pics

My oldest sons from the same day

shaker walleye again, on the same day. The pic made he fish a lil bigger, it was maybe 7" long

Here is one of Simons, where I attempted to make him appear to be a giant, lol. I'm pretty sure he has a pic of me with one even smaller. Again, this guy was maybe 7"

My youngest boys Rainy River giant!!!!

This thread inspired me to go out today for some pike! lol.

Fished for two hours, landed a few nice keepers, plus my son got his PB 35"!

Now, I'm torn between trying a pickle or a boil??? Probably gonna try to do my own boil me thinks.