Chance

First time I have seen that one,it was great !

Anyone want to bet that Ke$$el will be the last all-star picked at the draft on the 28th?

Yep I do

Right back at ya LOL

Was it a Mercedes?

No it was a high end truck

You'll have to pay duty as well, not sure if its made in north america or not, but it doesn't matter, most of the parts will be made overseas (NAAFTA) And yeah, the daytime running lights will cost you a bundle, nevermind the recall letter. Take it from a guy thats brought hundreds of vehicles over. I will NEVER bring another mercedes across the border.....,mercedes customer service in canada are a bunch of aholes to deal with if you never bought it from a canadian dealer.

I purchased my last vehicle is the states.Daytime running lights cost me $90 as they were a computer flash over,no big deal.The recall letter ...as muchh as they tell you that it is only available through one orginization I got mine from one of the dealerships over there for nothing other than a smile and a thankyou.

Was wondering about the white boots myself?

Words of wisdom and greatly appreciated!

Thank you

Thats my point garnet they ARE made for abuse and if these two are showing signs just how badly were they abused??

I do agree though that the two things that go are the mnotor and board.So If you are comfortable with replacing one or maybe both in the future then it is worth a try.If not then go another route.To me the big thing is reliability.Hate to get out on the lake and have it fail.

Trolling motors are made for abuse.

 

The most expensive thing to fix are the motor $300 and the board $300.

 

That still makes them cheap. Rocky might cut you a 2 for 1 repair rate.

Wouldnt touch them.

Two things to look at,first is this an indicator of how the past owner treated his gear or second is it at the age and work capacity that things will go wrong?Either one is a good indicator of future issues.

Aquariums tend to be breeding grounds for bacterial infections etc....Wild fish are introduced to issues they do not see in the wild.Stress plays a huge role,part of the reason you do not see their natural colours.Once stressed they become susceptible to disease.

Chance knows his hockey! Take the points and move on!

Thanks....I can handle a team that sucks but pros that dont get the basics I just cant fathom.Hal Gil has bothered me for years as he always turns the wrong way when he pivots.It works for him but every now and then he gets beat because of it.

I actually thoguht the Leafs played a terrible game.With the exception of some flashes of brilliance and good goal tending they were not very good.Numerous give aways that result from very poor positional play.Simple breakouts were being botched time and time again.Centers weren't swinging defence men were not shifting leterally and wingers looking over their shoulders.Every breakout is a finely tuned play with everyone having their role.When it doesnt work you move and adapt. No movement ,no adaptation.

Beauchamin needs to go back to the basics,he is making minor league mistakes.Skating to the weak side and dumping a three foot pass to your flat footed partner is unexceptable.As is his poor timing on the winger along the boards.How many times does the winger needs to squeeeze by before he takes a chance and leans in to him early.That is a sign of a guy who is scared fo getting beat to the inside so delays the hit.

However a win is a win and maybe things will change.

I disagree. I really liked Sundin. Good work ethic, never complained, a good role model to the younger players. I think he was a franchise player. I agree with Johnny that we need a franchise player. However you do not get them by trading draft picks away for 1 dimensional 60 point guys.

 

I would much rather watch Edmonton lose every night and know help is on the way than watch my beloved Leafs get crushed every night and realize there is nothing in the farm, and we have no first round draft pick this year.

 

I am sorry but I am not drinking the Brian Burke Kool Aid. I thought they might finish this year with a 40-32-8 record for 88 points and tenth in the conference but they would have to play some awefully good hockey for the rest of the year for that even. There is no evidence to suggest that this is attainable.

There are good players in the system.Jussi Rynnas and McKegg are a couple.

Awesome,something neither of you will forget.

The kids don't get it, Grimace. They haven't been disappointed by this team for as many decades. Nor do they appreciate how many "franchise players" have come and gone since 1967 .... all without results.

 

Chance - yes, those guys are all grandfathers now. That's my point. Heck, I still remember Dave Keon being the guy who would bring the cup back to Toronto. He was a great player too.

 

Sittler played on teams WITH Lanny McDonald, Borje Salming, Ian Turnbull and Mike Palmateer. And yet? No cup. If that team couldn't win (playing against weak, post-expansion teams in the 70s) then this bunch of amateurs hasn't got a snowball's chance.

Appreciate being called a kid,haven't been called that for many years.

Anyhow as leaf fans we know the machine is broken and has been for many decades.Bring in big name players,spend huge dollars on them,keep the fans happy and all to no end.We get it ,we honestly do.But when you grow up supporting a team you just stick with it.I dont buy hats or shirts or anything else you mentioned earlier.In fact I dont buy any NHL paraphernalia,wearing a shirt with another guys name on the back seems silly to me.

Every year we hope for a different result but dont expect it.This year seems a bit different than those of past.They are the youngest team in ther league and I dont remember that happening for a long time. They do have some very promising young players in the system so they are heading in the right direction.They ARE rebuilding regardless of how many times the mindless critics want to throw the Kessel trade around.

Seguin and Hall are very good players and will be for years to com.Sure one of them could of been playing for the Leafs but they are not,get over it citics it is said done and sealed and delivered.Anyone claiming Kessel is not a good player is either a fool or just doesnt watch the game at all.I also find it quite humorous how all these critics come out of the woodwork yet fail to realize their team of choice did not win the cup last year either.Which is worse a team that struggles every year to make it over 500 and just doesnt or a team that is built to win the cup but doesn't?every year I watch the playoffs in hopes a Canadian team wins the cup.I really dont care who and of course the Leafs would be nice but I would like it back in Canada regardless.

I thought that was Mats Sundin?

 

Or Wendel Clarke?

 

Or Darryl Sittler?

 

Or Borje Salming?

 

How far do you want to go back?

Not sure when the last time you watched a hockey game was or sports in general but those players are all retired.Hence the statement "we need a franchise player".

It wouldn't matter if the Leafs had all the draft picks in the first round. They would pick bad players or pick good players and make them bad by forcing that jersey on them. You know they passed on Tyler Myers for Luke Schenn? They passed twice on Milan Lucic and picked Tlusty and Kulemin instead. Lucic has more goals and points than Ke$$el by the way. Seguin scored tonight in Boston's 3-0 win over the Flyers and Thomas set an NHL record by being the first goalie in history to win his first 9 road games. Thanks again for that lottery pick in June 2011.

The Leafs could win a cup and I am sure you would find fault somewhere.I just find myself wondering why you care so much??

Listing who teams have passed on is silly as EVERY team has made bad choices in the past. Lidstrom 53rd..Datsyuk 171st...Zetterberg 210th..

Those who are quick to dismiss the rebuild you take a look in the minors and see who the Leafs have drafted.All the bashers seem to draw back to the kessel deal as an indicator of a non rebuild.So lets say we kept those picks and Seguin is skating on our first line right now.Do we automatically make a run for the cup?Do we at least start winning games?No but there is hope for the future you say......Once again we are the youngest team in the league and look at who we HAVE drafted.

Burke cleared out a mess of a team and has been rebuilding.

Yes I know. Its the second time I did that. And it is the second time I have been corrected but you know who I'm talking about.

 

Kessel is doing OK. He seems to be changing up his game. How is that draft pick working out for Boston?

 

Komi has been by far our second best defesemen.

 

Phaneuf? I dont know if he is trying to hard or what but he has not played great at all....He's still got a great one timer.

 

I think Kaberle is playing crap on purpose because he hears the rumors. Sundin waved His no trade clause to play for Vancouver so you never know.

Agreed I think Phaneuf is trying to leave his mark offensively and he should be concentrating on the defensive side of things first.I have to laugh though when the Leaf bashers start on phaneuf.They seem to forget what we got rid of to get him not to mention the others that came our way.

Ke$$el has one more goal than Kostisyn of the Habs but Toronto has 12 fewer points than Montreal. Teams win games, Ke$$els don't. And don't worry, the only reason they don't boo Komi in Toronto is that with the Leafs defence he doesn't look that bad in comparison. Last time I looked Montreal, Boston & Calgary were all ahead of the Leafs in the standings with only two teams in the league with fewer wins than Toronto. The Leafs will finish higher than last year...probably 28th because the Oilers and the Islanders are so terrible. The upside for them is they will get high draft picks next year and Burke will sign more undrafted college players you've never heard of.

I am sure you can try spin it any way you want but in the end Kessel is a good player and on the right team a great goal scorer.Teams are made up of "Kessels"so yes Kessels DO win games.How does the fact that they dont boo Komi in T.O and the Leafs defence sucks prove Montreal was glad to see him go??

Oh and as Leaf fans we do see scores,know stats and standings as well.So next time you get the urge to tell us the Leafs suck WE ALREADY KNOW .

Hey Johnny, Verbeek doesn't play for the Leafs, he's retired.

Can you leaf fans now see why there were no tears cried by Boston, Montreal and Calgary fans when Ke$$el, Komi, and Phanuef left town? Best part is Burke can't trade anyone he has aquired because that would be like admitting he made a mistake. Kaberle will just play out this season and not wave his no-trade so the Leafs will get nothing for him. He'll return to all-star form wherever he goes next year.

You keep trying to point out why kessel is terrible yet he is paid to score and that is what he is doing.If you consider his current totals terrible I suggest you look into the stats of others in the league.You might want to start with the habs as last I looked he has more goals than any of them.

Are you trying to say Boston and Montreal were looking to dump kessel and komi?Not likely,why do you think they boo komi when he touches the puck in montreal?Its because he left and signed elsewhere.

We are one the worst teams on the league and you guys think semin is going to sign here? Or Selanne will waive his no trade to come here when he absolutely loves the city of Anaheim. This is dreaming. Burke has overestimated the talent here. If he thought the leafs were this bad he could not have ever pulled the trigger in the kessel deal. We are in a real pickle here in Toronto.

As soon as burke traded for Kessel everyone semed to think that was the end of the rebuilding process.Yet look at the average age of the players on the roster.

We need scoring and he can score. We'll worry about the playoffs when we make it. Like you said. Our options are limited.

I haven't really watched semin enough to really comment but he looks like the kind of player that needs a good set up man.I think we need a good power forward AND a set up man for kessel.

We'll take Semin, but I think there will be more soon.

Semin seems a bit soft,no? I know he puts in the goals and really that is all that matters but come playoff time he doesnt seem to do alot.I think what is needed are BIG forwards who can score and unfortunately they are rarely available.

A center, winger or both! He definitely needs help!

Trouble is, as Burke is painfully aware...where to get one or both