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  2. Coronavirus.

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    1 hour ago, Headhunter said:

    With the average school having 600 kids or more, temp checks will take until lunch time!

    That’s one part of the process that could be optimized at relatively low cost. 
    No-touch infrared scanning thermometers, or ten of them doing 60 kids each, should be able to chug through it in a more reasonable time.  

    There is almost certainly going to be a huge run on infrared temperature scanners over the next several weeks, so they could become scarce very quickly though (infrared temperature scanners could become the new “toilet paper” when it comes to consumer demand).

  5. Physical Distancing

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    2 hours ago, BassMan11 said:

    Just because we are not in the same shape as the states doesn't really mean we are totally out of the woods.

    I think that we all need to figure out ways of carrying on with life as best we can,  with the threat of COVID-19 remaining around for quite a while, and we need to continue to re-assess the situation as things evolve or degrade.  I think hiding away completely, while banking on a future vaccine or the virus vanishing, is not really feasible.

    The chance of catching COVID-19 seems greater in an area experiencing a hot outbreak, and less in an area that has no active outbreak. As long as each of us lacks immunity to the virus (through whatever means), the risk won't ever be zero and transmission only ever requires contact with a single infected individual, not thousands.  The hand-washing and physical-distancing counter-measures are the only tools we've got right now, and the spirit of those guidelines are what need to be followed out in the community.

    The other concern is the outcome of the disease for the individual if they do happen to catch COVID-19. That's the piece that nobody knows for sure ahead of time, but statistics to date indicate that the chance of a poor or fatal outcome from the disease seems to be higher with age  (source: https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/epidemiological-summary-covid-19-cases.html)

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    Youngsters  seem to be more willing to roll the dice on catching it, and it might be because they feel that their personal outcome would be less likely to result in hospitalization or death. Hopefully, those risk-takers are not mingling with anyone elderly.

     

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  6. Physical Distancing

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    13 hours ago, BassMan11 said:

    Whats everyone's feelings on fishing trips right now? Here's my situation:

    I live in Ottawa, my Father in Niagara, and the other two older gentlemen are also from the Niagara area. We go on a fishing trip almost every year. My dad and his friends are older... over 60, and I in my 30's with 2 little kids. I have tentatively booked a cottage for the 4 of us in September up my way. 

    Do we still go? What is the general consensus?

    The only sure safe way (from your perspective) to do that would be for the out-of-towners to arrive 14 days ahead of you, and you join them if they are symptom-free at the end of that time. That’s likely not feasible. 
     

    Other options will introduce varying amounts of risk, and only you can decide your level of risk tolerance really.

  8. Physical Distancing

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    3 hours ago, Terry said:

    you have zero idea whether this person had covid  or when or if they were going to cough. 
    if I followed your thinking there would be no reason to wear a mask because the person would be coughing all the time so you would know to stay away. 
    And as I said they touched people walking by if they were coughing into their elbow and then rubbed someone they can transfer ever easy

    Some people are making it difficult to maintain the 2m distance even when trying to. Pay-at-the-pump wasn't working for me the other day at a gas bar, so I had to risk venturing into the small payment building with the clerk and cash register.


    I checked that nobody else was in there and went in to pay. Well wouldn’t you know it, some other guy wandered in during the transaction and decided to squeeze in between me and a candy shelf behind me, even though there was a clear route around the other way. He didn’t maintain any distance at all and in fact made direct contact!

    I think there must be virus-deniers around, otherwise why do such a risky and foolish thing?  This isn’t the good old days of 2019 anymore. I will be relieved when 14 days safely elapses.

     

     

     

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  10. Coronavirus.

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    7 hours ago, Streamhound said:

    Just read that over 80 percent of deaths during the 1919 pandemic were caused by the 2nd outbreak after everyone went back to normal after the first wave.

     

    7 minutes ago, T-Bone said:

    Where did you read this?

    The text in the following supports that the second wave of the 1918 flu pandemic was worse than the first.  

    https://www.history.com/.amp/topics/world-war-i/1918-flu-pandemic

    That was not a coronavirus, of course. Young, healthy people who lacked immunity often succumbed to the infection during that pandemic.

    “ The death rate for 15 to 34-year-olds of influenza and pneumonia were 20 times higher in 1918 than in previous years (Taubenberger).”

    https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/

  16. Coronavirus.

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    1 hour ago, passthepitonspete said:

    campfires are banned everywhere in Ontario.  

    43 minutes ago, Woodsman said:

    That's not true.

    All outdoor fires, including campfires, were banned in the restricted fire zones as of April 3.

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    Links:

    https://globalnews.ca/news/6769282/coronavirus-ontario-outdoor-fire-restriction/amp/

    https://news.ontario.ca/mnr/en/2020/04/ontario-reducing-risk-of-fire-in-the-province.html

    A large number of municipalities outside that restricted fire zone have instituted their own burn bans as well, so you should check each specific area to avoid a hefty fine.

    https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/london/2020/4/3/1_4881663.html

     

  21. Some things I wonder about the COVID-19 pandemic

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    o Why do some otherwise healthy adults develop severe illness, even if they aren’t elderly and have no other known medical conditions?

    o In the “old-normal” world, kids were notorious for touching everything with their hands and in really young kids, even with their mouths. Hand-washing wasn’t at the top of their list. Kids have a lower number of infections (1% to 6% based on data from countries where such sampling has been done (https://www.cps.ca/en/documents/position/current-epidemiology-and-guidance-for-covid-19-march-2020) despite their “touch everything” and typical lack of physical distancing. I’m thankful that their outcome is almost always extremely good when they do get it, likely because of their fast-acting immune systems.

    o What is the percentage of ventilated people coming off ventilators due to recovery vs the percentage of ventilated people that died?

    o What are we going to do if/when a virus comes along that has a higher percentage mortality in the general population than this one? People will truly be afraid to shop and keep the supply chains open. Everybody will want PPE. If we learn from this round, it sounds like there should be massive, redundant stockpiles of PPE established across the country for the “next time.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

  22. Lets Talk batteries

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    14 minutes ago, irishfield said:

    I'm most amazed at how people know what's in stock and what's not on a weekly basis. I haven't been in a grocery store in 32 days.

    I shop for the household once per week, except for one full two-week stretch at the end of March.  The capacity to store pantry items is finite for everyone, but the capacity varies from household to household.  32 days and counting indicates a lot of capacity. 
     

    Things like fresh milk can’t really be kept for 32 days, no matter what the capacity. 
     


     

  23. Lets Talk batteries

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    In the Kawartha Lakes / Peterborough area, distilled water is a fast mover but if it’s sold out one day, it seems to be back in stock the next time. You could try picking a different day of the week to shop to see if your particular supplies are more readily available.

    Toilet paper is seldom out of stock now in the area. It’s still very  tough to find disinfectant wipes and hand sanitizer.

    Three weeks ago there was a big run on flour and rice. That was back in stock too the  last time I did a grocery run.

     

     



     


     

  25. Wuhan Honda back to production

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    7 hours ago, Big Cliff said:

    Well, my gas milage was good but now I am getting about 4 weeks to the gallon.

    The last time I actually had to fill up the vehicle, gas was $1.12.  I haven’t been able to buy at the $0.77 price because the tank has remained close to full since there’s no place to go other than the store once a week.I also filled a couple of jerry cans back at $0.96 thinking we’d never ever see such low prices.

    Back then, that seemed to matter, but now the gas price seems so unimportant. A lot of things we used to be concerned about seem trivial now.

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