Catnthehat

Get him to register on the Alberta Outdoorsman forum , there are a few realters and lots of people simply willing to help out a new guy on that website. Cat

Howdy! I live in Alberta, but joined here due to some info that was asked of my by another member ( Backbay) concerning an old shotgun that someone else ( Cudz) had and was asking about. I'm sort of " in the know" about that stuff I've a lifelong history of competitive shooting, hunting ,and of course, FISHING!! I fish with gear as well as the long rod , and got my first fly rod for Christmas in the 60's - still have it and use it for pike . it's a Heddon Pal. Taught my son how to fly fish at the tender age of 5, and he won a prize for lake Whitefish that year- 3.5lbs on a 5wht Fenwick and back swimmer beetle ! My residence for the last 40 years has been in Northern Alberta, collect vintage reels ( Pflueger mostly) and run a Marathon jet boat. Lived in Ontario and Quebec as well, but my heart was always where I was born - Manitoba. Cat

I can't get enough of this guy, used to watch him when I was a kid and loved the music then, but his cowboy stuff is REALLY super! Cat

HAHAHA!! I forgot the ".com" behind the name!! Actually what I DID miss was the "E" on the end of Wheire, and it may not even be that, just what I could figure from the picture. I know nothing about the maker myself, except he is listed in the books. Looking at the profs as closely as I can, it would seem that the proof mark identifies the gun as a Ketland , according to my book of Armourers marks by Cyngell ( published 1959) However, the top marking is still a mystery to me, it could be an inspector's stamp. ketland BTW, is a very respected name in black powder circles! it would be interestig to get a look at the inside of that lock! As far as forgetting more about guns that Backbay knows, crap, that's not the only thing I've forgotten, like where in blazes did I put my slippers??!! Cat

Thanks for the warm welcome , guys! Backbay actually sent me here , I do fish as well as shoot! I think I can safely say that I have known Backbay longer than anyone else on the site!( grin) Cudz, the name seems to appear as Wheir, a London maker IIRC correctly form my data. it's a wonderful piece and hopefully you will be able t get it smoking again! Cat

I've been shooting , and repairing Black powder rifles and shotguns since 1977, and can tell by the nose cap, trigger guard, hammers, hooked breech, and checkering, that this is not a hardware store gun but a decently made English fowler.if you remove the lock you will likely see a little metal piece behind the bridal ( something that looks like a snail ) , the little metal piece is called a" fly" or detente, that prevents the sear from hitting the half noodle notch on the tumbler when it is fired. The cheaper guns, as well as the other things i mentioned, never had this. If you look at the underside of the barrels as well, you may see a note that says "not for ball" or choke" If it was a cheaper hardware gun proofed in England but made with parts from Continental Europe, it would have the crown and mace proofs but would also have a note saying "not English made" Hope this helps. Ge the barrel checked out and if it's okay, feel free to contact me and can walk you through the whole process of shooting that fine piece. Cat