Im just trying to find a "decent local hole" to teach my kids. Panfish is the place to start. I was raised (half of my life) in western Quebec and I cut my teeth on 42 inch pike at the age of 12. Back to teaching my kids. I dont want a place where im snagging sheephead and carp! its just a turnoff. I literally want to "upchuck" when I get those fish on.