Marc Thorpe

well done, refreshing

Mike B,the first pic shows how mythical that morning was

Joey,myself love th auger shot

Hi George hope all is well and wood dust is covering you

Jacques ,I have used Fry Minnows,small tubes ,small spoons (tipped with worms or maggots)

Not sure what you refer to as salties

They can be finicky

Generally I have found when they are not bitting when there is motion,idling the bait/stop and wait after vigorous jigging they seem to take it.

It seemed the way to get em this weekend,they would not take it while the bait was moving

you had to jig short but agressively then iddle the bait,then they would take bite

we punched some 50 to 60 holes,kepts moving as they were scattered

Hi Jacques,love fishing up there.Beautifull scenery

Ice was very good saturday,water at the end of the day on the ice ,sunday it was just too iffy

Next time I am up I let you know and see if your free to join us

RodCaster,ya I do use a large auger, we used 8 and 10 icnhers

The ice had gone white and looked very brittle

Good luck this weekend,we use small spoons,tiped with worms

I dont think it mattered,Paul a buddy of mine who lives upthere used small jigs and did equally good

good cold weather is coming in so it will harderden what ever melt and make a nice thick chunk

gonna take 2 -3 days for it to be safe

Roy, Ice was 10 to 12 inches but went bad on sunday due to rain and extented warm weather

it tunred white and large crystals started forming creating very soft ice

Adventure in the valley of exchange and purchase (Outaouais valley)

The journey commenced with a drive in foggy snowy covered scenery with the appearance of several appearances of the wildlife that abounds that valley ,coyotes,deer and wild turkeys

A research of open season lakes was done prior and Saturday morning we determined we would adventure on a Nowhere lake none of us had fished which had an open winter ice fishing season for Salvelinus fontinalis (Speckled trout).

Punching holes to get the lay of the lake and determine depths

Paul Robitaille and Mathieu Lafontaine prowl the ice

after some 50- 60 holes punched

the epic battles commence 11 for 20 to 25 bites in 6 hrs

Little break for home made chicken noodle soup and smoked ribs on the ice !!!!

the action continues,
drill more holes

the action continues in the valley of exchanges and purchases

customary to Paul's hospitality ,he would not let us leave without a healthy breakfast

great weekend with Paul and Math,tks guys

Unfortunately heavy rains put an early end to our weekend of adventure,ice had weakened and crystals within the ice had begun frazzling so we dared not venture out to combat Bronzbacks
— with Paul Robitaille and Mathieu Lafontaine

For more pics

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=401127526640916&set=pcb.401139756639693&type=1&theater

Be good

Marc

Hi Jason,your solution and use of local brood is from what I gather your best opportunity.

Financial assistance and approval is needed

having worked in collaboration with OMNR and QMNR for some 25 years ,there are times when disappointment arise

1- Have you contacted your senior regional biologist for his support?(I'd recommend working closely with him and wildlife techs)

2- I would amongst all outfitters around Nippissing commence a daily capture log

what this will do,in case you cannot get support or overturn the decision is offer next year a complete log/data with length of overall captures (You may be doing it already) and times fished.

Catch per rate unit effort with size is a great tool for gathering data and showing trends in fish populations and time invested by anglers.

I fully understand that 1 or 2 years may be time consuming but should offer a population portrait which as you stated seems already outlined,Its just one more piece of data that will support your need to assistance from the provincial gov

best of luck

well done guys

Stunning!

Sorry about that its was the Oct show and was in the archives.

We air one once a month around 15 to 20 of each month

Here is the muskies show

Muskie

Is this the world's smelliest fish?

My socks in the fall !!!!!!!

Not even Fabreeeeeeeeeeeeeeze works

Some great info and tips on handling and storage ,Kudos to all

For those interested in birds eye view of what are resources folks due to asses our aquatic biodiversity

Follow QMNR as they they update their Ichthyology study in a section of the St Lawrence river

FF

Tks for the comments,the purpose of the show is to help acquire knowledge about various species,In this case the handling and issues muskies face

be good

marc

I think its gonna blow

Tks Roy and Art,in hopes the education and issues fish face at times serves as a value of better handling

be good

marc

Morning all

Tks Roy for sharing the education.

Let me first start by saying,yes pics are cool but in fact nothing glorious or rewarding about having to take such time in revival of fish this way.

It needs to be done at times

In the last 25 years of guiding,I have developed several methods and techniques for reviving fish with different issues such as swim bladder issues.

It has nothing to do with WARM water or DEEP water

I will explain further

I like to pride myself on sharing and helping establish handling and release methods that most of today's anglers utilize,I have even established with wildlife techs handling protocols during netting studies on various species.

Nice thing is that fish handling overall is much better than it ever has been in all aspects.

Admittingly Pete Maina was one of leading folks in this in which in a way ,he allowed me the lead to further extend his education

In warm water or big waves,we dont take fish out of the water,simply Low dissolved oxygen in warm water temps and bouncing around in big waves induces stress.

Warm water is relative,when water reach above 74 ,I consider it warm

In this case we were fishing 75 degrees with good dissolved oxygen levels.

Its not only warm water ,its warm air

Being responsible is not taking fish out of water if 1 or 2 issues occur(warm water or/and warm air)

I dont allow fish that show signs of stress out of the water either under ideal conditions either.

Fish under stress generally show rosy flanks

Terry,Ironically there is something to your comment.

Understanding physiological signs and behavior is part of somehow understanding what the fish is going through and what needs to be done.(lots of reading during the winter)

Strangely as it sounds,yes your state of being is of great importance around all living matter,more so than people would imagine.You cant panic and must be calm

Not just for dogs

Terry there are differences between male and female behaviors,females being much more calm and somehow (in a human way of seeing things)aware of what is being done,

Males generally need more leading to not stray away before being able to stabilize themselves.

I suspect a predatory instinct may play a role in males behavior in regards to my presence.

Swim bladders issues are complex,not quite fully understood

In most case ,holding on till the fish swims off generally works out

Most times the fish will remain at surface some 20 to 30 minutes before swimming down.

Every so often a couple need more help.

To understand swim bladder issues is somewhat like the bends.

Unlike humans the bends generally affects the blood,swim bladders are used for regulating pressure in great depths ( commonly over 30 feet,pressure does not change drastically from surface to 32 feet in one shot but more so in a gradual way ,approximately every 6 feet),water density during colds water periods and current.

Most fish during cold water periods and depth use extensively there swim bladders to compensate pressure and water density ,which is why most times it is fully inflated with air.

In Current the swim bladders is partially filled with air,making matters a bit more complex.

In most species swim bladders are oval and in with internal organs.

In muskies( esox family) the swim bladder is elongated an runs along the spine and when experiencing swim bladders issues ,the bladder actually pushes down on organs which in turn pushes down on the internal organs making the fish go belly up.

When the fish does not seem to respond in stabilizing itself ,or stress from trying to go down when it cannot.The only solutions I have found and read somewhat about on other species is making them swim to stabilize and shake off the effects of destabilization from the swim bladder. Swimming slow along seems to lower stress levels and allow the fish to rid itself of air which I suspect is trapped from collapsed swim bladders as they lunge up to grab the bait.

Strangely they seem to display awareness of what is trying to be done(females especially),in most cases are very aware of your presence and seem to follow the lead.

Understanding physiological displays and watching stress levels lower is much more complex.

When the fish becomes relatively fine,it generally will slowly swim away

It may take somewhere between 20 minutes and 2 hrs at times.

24 to 72 hrs is what I suspect is the recovery period from undergoing such a stressful ordeal,it applies to all captures with or without swim bladder issues.

Our tagging study has shown that post mortal release seems to occur between 24 and 72 hrs but has been as much as 6 days!!!!

Once again this has nothing to do with depth,most fish are caught well above 30 feet

casting or trolling have no affect on the issue,its an individual issue.

Fish that show signs of swim bladders issues should NEVER be taking out of the water

My sincere hopes for the species is that in water shots become the norm under all conditions.

C&R has evolved and will continue to evolve,maybe someday we will see more in water shots and less out of water handling.

Roy you are always welcome in sharing education with OFC

I apologies for my lack of presence

Like most Life has a way of keeping us busy

Something to consider for those who raise Eyebrows at this

You know my name,not my past

You know what I do,but what what I have gone through

what I share is what I have learned

Splendid

Happy New Year to you Mr.Thorpe.

 

May your camel not be riden with fleas and spits into the wind.

Whats wrong with a camel with Fleas

Tybo,they he who sleeps with dogs wakes up with fleas,explains the itch I have

Wayne,may God health rein on your family this coming year

Tks for all your well wishes

Happy B day dude

A big TKs to Roy for a wonderful supper

Wishing all OFNer's a Happy, healthy and prosperous New Year and and special thanks and best wishes to TJ,Roy,Marty,Art,Danc,Chris K for keeping this forum what it has be renowned to be

Man asked god "give me everything to enjoy life"

God replied "I have given u life to enjoy everything"

or

Man asked god "give me everything to enjoy OFC"

God replied "I have given u life to enjoy OFC"

May 2012 shine on you all

marc

Great video I think this thinking should be used no matter the fish large or small from Suckers to catfish. I got extremely upset the other day because people where catching suckers dragging them up on shore over the rocks as the fish hurts it self, I find it totally disrespectful.

I agree,but we must all understand each other learning curve,experience and knowledge,if we all share from our own mistakes and observations,in a whole,we progress and widen this education for all to benefit all the while shortening the learning curve for other.

be good

marc

Art,just take a 9 hour drive,reserve your dates and we will get you A muskie

Then I send you back home hahahaha

Well,maybe If Roy wants,you can have 1 supper at his house

Tks,glad it was appreciated,it education that can lead us all to better understand the betterment of our intentions

Nice compilation Joey

I see Tybo driving his Chev in the other video

Here a video of a talk I had in Gannanoque beginning of april on swim bladders and C&R

http://www.fishfactor.tv/FISHFACTOR_TV/Resource.html

Dude,as of Today,I dont know you anymore!!!!!!!!

Maybe you should let your wife do the driveway

You might be watching to many Red Green shows and Tim the toolman