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...and for all the naysayers who say lockdowns are useless you are now proved wrong for the 3rd time.
Not only have we bent the curve but we have already bent it downwards. This will likely be the last lockdown unless we have new strains in the winter. People will then be able to get a booster shot. Vaccinations are working and we will come out of lockdown probably sooner then originally predicted. Get your jab. Protect yourself, do it for your country. Herd immunity works. Vaccinations gets us there super quick.-
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18 hours ago, msp said:
LA county California had the earliest and most strict lockdown measures in the entire country. Their deaths per capita were the same as New York.
The correlation between safety measures and outcomes is not there.
100% totally WRONG. California now has the lowest infection rate of any state
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10 hours ago, smitty55 said:
With apologies to the OP as this topic has taken somewhat of a tangent. I had already typed my comment out after catching up the last two pages, then I thought oh yea, this started as a camping thread with a side of lost freedoms.
Is it really even a vaccine? Not the mRNA ones, they have never been approved for human testing even. Normally real vaccines take 5 years for approval, right now they are all being allowed under emergency measures only so this is all an experiment. The Astra Zeneca one has been banned in numerous countries now due to blood clots. Ok here though they say. I highly suggest spending 10 minutes of your time and listen to this doctor explain how vaccines actually work as well as the role that big pharma plays in this. Follow the money as they say. https://lbry.tv/@SixthSense-Truth-Search-Labs:0/Dr-Andrew-Wakefield-Warns---This-Is-Not-A-Vaccine!:b?fbclid=IwAR3NmzBDaIgn_6HTgsuFHLGcKtWpLgqFhH2A3D_iAi18LrPgP4x6sPxF0-E Then make up your mind If you think this is just another conspiracy theory.Cheers
Ohh gawd, how much I would give if I was never directed to watch another damned youtube video giving me the REAL TRUTH. You can be certain after watching one that you will be misinformed.
A vaccine is a jab that protects you. We have heard all this bull before they were even given that they won't work. The proof is in the pudding and the vaccines are working WAY better then imagined. All the rest is story telling. People pretending that they know what they are talking about but they don't. It's tiresome.-
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27 minutes ago, siwash said:
Do any of you wonder why hospitals are getting paid (in some cases thousands per report) for Covid positivity tests? This is well documented and is occurring throughout the world. Personally, it makes me shudder. Well, we can all agree one thing - Phizer, et al, have made a pile of money from this. Gaurenteed contracts for years to come. Nice bit of business eh?
It's well documented? Then why not provide a reputable link to a trusted news source stating such? Why a trusted news source you say? Because all trusted news sites have editorial oversight over anything they print to avoid getting sued.
So another breathless conspiracy theory? How many people are in on it? Thousands? Tens of thousands? Millions? We have the governments of every democracy in the world and their health care sectors in on it. Big business, and of course the world wide news media. There would be countless others. Do they all get a slice of the pie? Too many people really WANT to believe a conspiracy, for that we can blame the motion picture business!!!!!!
Can you actually believe that we are in a pandemic and that vaccinations are solving this giant uncontrolled pandemic as we speak. You will see the results of this very soon in Ontario. Our US brothers have probably noticed it already, and even those in the hit hard states will notice it soon like us. Get your jab. Protect yourself, do it for your country. Herd immunity works. Vaccinations gets us there super quick.-
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17 hours ago, cisco said:
I am not an anti-vaxer. Vitamin D3, C, and zinc are taken daily. Our gov't isn't even advising on ways to boost our immune systems. I have also read Finland has achieved proper vitamin D levels since 2014 by adding it to milk products. Finland has by far the lowest virus cases and mortality rates and has stopped shut down methods from what I have read. Why hasn't our gov't advised on at least vitamin D? Maybe I missed it. IMHO incompetence or some other reasoning......
If you look at the active cases for Finland they were doing reasonably well until March, then their active cases went straight up and they haven't been able to bend the curve at all. Sound familiar? You tell a great story but time and time again your "facts" don't check out. There is some truth to what you say but big picture you are always off the mark.
If people want hope look at the countries with the highest vaccination rates, Israel and Gibraltar. Gibraltar hasn't had an active local case in weeks all due to there extremely high vaccination rates. Israel is lifting restrictions step by step. Face masks are no longer required outdoors.
The conclusion is obvious, get your jab. Protect yourself, do it for your country. Herd immunity works. Vaccinations gets us there super quick.
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1 hour ago, cisco said:
Yes I am pushing this hard. You are having fun pushing hard dissing doctors? What qualifies you? Did you even watch the video before planning how to attack? The rest of the world hasn't missed this medication. Maybe look at just the last vid to say why just this one doctor is wrong or lying. Again, I am pushing this 'hard'. From all I have read and observed I am cynical of MSM and what we are being told because I do research and have found many examples of bias in the research that has been done to disprove anything and everything except about the experimental vaccines.
If a 'magic bullet' to cure and to stop the virus was indeed a reality then this would be a worthwhile thing for most of us anyway. But certainly not for all. Not for you it seems. Rather than constantly offering hollow negative assertions perhaps do some research re what doctors who are using it around the world are saying. Oh and I mean doctors rather than regulators or Big Pharma or cynics such as yourself.
1 hour ago, cisco said:Yes I am pushing this hard. You are having fun pushing hard dissing doctors? What qualifies you? Did you even watch the video before planning how to attack? The rest of the world hasn't missed this medication. Maybe look at just the last vid to say why just this one doctor is wrong or lying. Again, I am pushing this 'hard'. From all I have read and observed I am cynical of MSM and what we are being told because I do research and have found many examples of bias in the research that has been done to disprove anything and everything except about the experimental vaccines.
If a 'magic bullet' to cure and to stop the virus was indeed a reality then this would be a worthwhile thing for most of us anyway. But certainly not for all. Not for you it seems. Rather than constantly offering hollow negative assertions perhaps do some research re what doctors who are using it around the world are saying. Oh and I mean doctors rather than regulators or Big Pharma or cynics such as yourself.
Quack cures are a dime a dozen for CV19. So are quack Drs and quack published papers in support of these miracle cures. Rule of thumb, if no national health agency is interested in this then it's not worth my time to go do my "individual research" on youtube or other stray websites. If it had validity and could save countless lives the world would take notice. Pushing this on OFC won't speed up that process. Try politcians, some are actively looking for red herrings.
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4 hours ago, cisco said:
I keep watch on vids re Drs claiming positive results. They aren't liars. Insane to think what they are telling the world is bogus.
https://noqreport.com/2021/02/25/peer-reviewed-study-ivermectin-cuts-covid-infections-deaths-by-75/
Boy you're pushing this one hard. Funny that the whole rest of the world missed this miracle. It's a plot. It's a juicy narrative, it's a conspiracy theory.
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49 minutes ago, cisco said:
Here are some points where Fauci, that US lady expert and our PM are quoted and on video.
Sure the vid is from Utbe and Tucker calson but the vids are of the experts and our PM.
We should be very happy that pressure applied got Ford to relax some outdoor activity allowances. Many of us are doing what we can to push for outdoor activity rather than indoor virus transmission. We need listen to doctors who treat patients and do proper demographic research to focus on problems rather than imposing broad brush restrictions that are ineffective stopping virus transmission but highly effective re harming our mental health, employment/economy, schooling and so forth.
There is Fox news and everything else at Fox which they classify as opinion shows. When sued programs like Tucker's claim it is an entertainment show. Their defence is we can't be held accountable to any fact even if our misinformation inadvertently kills people. People know it's all Bull.
Looking at the specific clips you provided all three are making the point that we can't stop with masks even when a significant portion of the population has been vaccinated. Transmission is still occurring in all states, and in a number of states rates are still going up even with vaccinations because of the new variants. They are far more contagious. Israel with a 54% vaccination rate only today stated that you no longer need to wear masks outside. A very small percentage of people who have been vaccinated still have died or been hospitalized. Most will not get sick but those who do can still transmit CV19. The percentages go way down but they don't disappear.
Otherwise I agree with the second half of your response.
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7 hours ago, siwash said:
....3 million deaths out of 8 Billion people. That ranks pretty average and even on the low side of other diseases killing people.
If you compare a virus to diseases like cancer then yes, CV19 is no big deal death wise. If you compare CV19 to other virus' that kill people then CV19 is a major killer and is anything but, "average". The only thing that compares to it is AIDS, otherwise you have to go back to the Spanish flu of 1918. We did next to nothing to stop AIDS and we have a similar yearly death rate with AIDS at it's peak. On the other hand we've got 3 million dead and the world has taken extraordinary steps to slow this virus down, what if nothing had been done?
Countries like Brazil and India are getting clobbered right now and in India's case it might take 4 years to vaccinate enough of the population to achieve herd immunity. There now is a specific Indian variant. We in the west will be okay because we can vaccinate against future variants. We are not done with CV19 yet and are probably only in the middle innings. This pandemic is one for the history books. Say 5 to 10 million dead is a BIG deal
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2 hours ago, cisco said:
...Oh and the vaccine has neither proven to be safe nor effective from all I have read. Our PM was even joked about by US reporters for responding to whether we can stop with masks and social distancing when all are vaccinated.... he replied that ....no we can't cuz over in the UK even though vaccinations have been massive the cases are growing fast.
A US expert when asked why cases aren't down due to vaccinations and she said the vaccine effect is a delayed one. what the heck!!
When Fausi was asked why Texas has lower cases yet ended lock down a while ago he said maybe cuz they're outside more.....he made no mention that maybe the vaccine is helping.
Things sure are confusing.
I have some questions about the points you made.
How many millions of doses of vaccine have been given out and how many cases of blood clots are there in Canada? Is there any vaccine that is 100% totally safe? What are your odds of dying if you get covid19 and you are not vaccinated, and what are your odds of dying if you have been vaccinated? Who has claimed that vaccinations gives everyone a 100% immunity? The infection rate is way down in the UK, who claims that it is going way up? Only a 1/3 of all Americans have been vaccinated, why should the virus disappear instantly there now? Infection rates are dropping in southern states but rising in northern states, could Faucci be right?
Things seem crystal clear to me. vaccinations work.
With regards to Covid19, the US was a dumpster fire but now look at them. Even with many states having few or no restrictions their infection rate has gone way down and levelled off. -
On 4/16/2021 at 12:12 PM, wkrp said:
All you have to do is look south of the border who has fully vaccinated twice of our population and we are not even sitting at 30% with only single vaccinations in Canada and the trust fund kid in Ottawa is telling us he has our backs while he continues patting his own back . Give me a break!
Yes, as a nation we were stupid to become dependent on other nations for vaccinations. Most people don't know that our Pfizer and Monderna supply comes from Europe because the American plants will give us none of their created supply. It has led to delays in our contracted totals. If you wonder why the Europeans are cheesed it's because both the US and GB expect that Canada and other nations get supplied from their European plants. In England's case it is insisting that the Astra Zenca produced in Europe only go to the UK first till they are fully vaccinated.
So you can rightly blame our government for many things but not supply issues.-
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23 hours ago, OhioFisherman said:
We don't have 10 times the population of Canada, but more than 20 times the deaths? They can't be screwing things up too badly?
Our infection rate has now surpassed the US infection rate. This is strong evidence that vaccinations work. Our death rate is still way below the US death rate. I do agree that all the outdoor restrictions are counter productive, on the other hand the alternative of no lockdown to curb outbreaks has been proven time and time again around the world to boost your death rate within hospitals to about 10% and lead to many other deaths from other conditions.
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Canada needed ice breakers like this at one point in it's history!
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2 hours ago, porkpie said:
Yes, this is true, but we feel this way at any time of year, pandemic or not 😀😀😆😊😂😜. (And if they smilies weren’t enough, for greater clarity, I’m just having fun)
It is totally different now, I know some cottagers who avoid local shops during the pandemic because they are made to not feel welcome within local shops by local customers. It seems that the locals know the score. Could it be that if you live in a small community you know the Drs and nurses personally who work the front lines and they will set you straight on misinformation narratives so common on the internets.
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Interesting....I do know that if you are from the GTA they don't want you coming to their county!
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On 4/2/2021 at 10:54 PM, T-Bone said:
...It’s been put to song many times because it’s so true...only the strong survive.
I dunno. I think that sentiment is a little tone deaf. No one saw this coming. You can social media till your eyes bleed in this 2nd year but if the bulk of Canadian fishermen live in the GTA, how many Canadians are going to drive anywhere near the distance to Thunder Bay and your establishment? As a lodge owner you may have made a big investment in 2019 and I bet there are a lot of operations where they are now fully dependent on the wife's income to keep their establishment afloat. In this situation bull-crap to, "only the strong survive". There is a lot of chance and luck playing into this also. If your place is on the French River you're golden, you will be fully booked and it's the best of times. If on the other hand you're on Lac Seul and you had a STRONG business with 95% American customers, you could be on your knees.
This is exactly why I'm doing it different this year and making the trek out that way. Go fish in a different pond, it's an adjustment that if enough of us made it, then it could make a difference. Like a mini Ontarian fishing Dunkirk. You get a banner fishing year in prime fishing weeks with some lodges more then 1/2 empty. To boot some places are offering discounted rates. Win-win.-
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Love hearing from the owners. Keep those post coming. I look at each one. From considering a possible trip we are now going for sure and will book when we get our vaccination appointments. I'd like to get to at least Thunder bay and can see us staying at a 1/2 dozen places.
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1 hour ago, Adam Wood said:
......we do have openings this season and would love an opportunity to showcase what we have to offer.
I am curious about owners and their specific situation. How was last year compared to this year and how is this year shaping up? You are up Cochrane way so would have less American clients?
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Oh I think many people will be flying sometime this late summer or fall. Once many are vaccinated and the rate of spread drops off a cliff there will be about as much danger flying as during a normal flu season. Those vaccinated don't have to worry as much about the worst outcomes. You will also see Covid much weaker during the summer as it was last year. Where we go late 2021-22 who knows. It could be more like normal, perhaps with booster shots at your pharmacy for those that want it. I think you will see mask wearing by a portion of the population for some time.
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2 hours ago, pine portage said:
We have a airplane base right on Wawa Lake and free parking for all of our guests. Any one wishing to stay away from all those crowded beaches and camp grounds this summer, this will be a trip of a life time.
What do you have to lose give us a call or fill out the online reservation form provided on our website.
Thanks for that! I've been to Wawa before, we stayed at Naturally Superior, and I really liked the area. They outfitted a lovely day canoe ride down the Michipicton river which I'd love her to do for the first time. I had always wondered about fishing in these parts. I'll show the Mrs and who knows!
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This is unlike any other year in the business. Last year most places stayed closed. This year it's a mixed bag. Some are closed, some are full steam ahead, and others are sitting on the fence. I imagine some lodges have gone out of business. I've contacted establishments that are not returning emails. It would be nice to help those establishments who are seeking business and probably need business. WIN-WIN. We are a community so I thought I'd give it a try. May be I'd get a lead or two but no worries if nothing comes of this, I have some spots in mind already. I'm just fishing for ideas to make a search a little easier!
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I've been looking for a place to go this year and have looked as far as Saskatchewan. Problem is when is a safe time to get on a plane? What some lodge owners did last year was to open their lodges up to Canadians and they may well start their season off like that again this year with the borders being closed. Who knows where it goes from there. Like last year those places closer to Toronto are fully booked or near capacity. This year there is a good chance my wife and I will have at least one jab at the start of the season. It may be the year to take that long road trip west. Having retired it could be a trip that lasts several weeks.
Perhaps there are others like me willing to go to western Ontario for the 1st time to fish. If you own a lodge or know of a lodge that would be struggling this year I'd like to hear from you. We could be in the enviable position where you only have to commit to a few days but could stay as long as you like if you stubble upon a gem.-
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one of my best friends has a cottage at the lake. I usually go at least once a year. It is heavily over fished. Generally I will take new lures or reels there to break them in on the dock. I will see several boats with 2-3 guys fishing for what seems like most of the day. They will comb every inch of shoreline often going over areas they had hit previously several hours later. If I was to fish it seriously I would be looking for species that they would ignore and fish in places they wouldn't fish.
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Nature always puts your head back on straight!
Marinas cannot be used for recreational boating
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You are linking to the total infections over the entire pandemic for California. If you want to know how a state is doing CURRENTLY look at the daily infection rate.
California's population is about the same as all of Canada. In Ontario alone we have a seven day moving average of 4000 new cases a day. California has about 1800 new cases today.
Please don't believe me, believe facts.
https://covid19.ca.gov/