Thnx guys for taking the time to respond, i guess i should have mentioned that i dont have a boat at my disposal so i am a pond/pier/ river bank fisher. I tend to target the thames river the most as there is many dufferent opportunities. luv to get out on a boat tho! I luv to hike and walk the river banks for miles, its pretty awesome! I go after any and all using severaal different baits. Have gotten smallies, carp, sucker,rock bass white bass, perch, pike, pickeral and couple others. I actually got a personal best 8.95 oz beautiful channel cat today. Will post pics in couple days. Thankyou guys. Fish on!