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Last season I used a PiranhaMax 160 portable for ice fishing since I picked it up really cheap. With this unit I could see my jig down at 100ft (even my swivel above) so it worked ok. I am looking at the Humminbird 570 right now since I it looks like I can pick one up for $100 and put it in my portable pack to replace the 160. The plus I think would be the larger screen and much higher resolution. Question, what makes the "ice" models better for ice fishing? I know they have the special transducer, but this is no worry to me as I have the other one "rigged" up. Looking at a few models: Model Display Colour Greyscale Vert Hor Power Transducer PiranhaMax 160 4” no 4 level 160 128 800W Dual 60/20 Humminbird 570 5” no 12 level 640 320 2000W Dual 60/20 Humminbird ICE 345C 3.5” 256 TFT 320 240 2400W Dual 60/20 Lowrance Elite 4X 3.5” 256 TFT 320 240 2100W Dual 60/20 So looking at the specs, aside from the colour vs. greyscale (and TFT screen but I use mine almost always in the heated hut).......... the 570 should work just as good no? Maybe I am missing something? Thanks!! Burt