Went to see Kris at Fishonline yesterday thanks to douG's suggestion and he had them. Also had a great selection of european ice jigs and different lures that you can't get from the "BIG STORES". Kris was really helpful and since it was my first time there he also made my entire purchase tax free!! ....thanks Kris. Don't think they would be willing to do that at the BPS. Anyhow just thought I'd share and will let y'all know how "MR. Chubby" works this seasons. Thanks to all who responded.....Tight Lines Jeff