FishLogic, James77, Wall I, Chris Brock, Manjo39 and Mr. Simon - Thank You to ALL of you for your comments and advice .... It is much appreciated ..... I will check out the websites you recommended and I will also phone Mike Borger .......Checking things out this way will no doubt see myself and my brothers in law end up with a really good fly in experience next August .......Thanks again Jack Daniels ( Hamilton, Ont.)