Hack_Fisherman Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 I had a great week fishing this past week. Nothing huge but gobs of fish. I had a local tell me “someone must have dumped crappie in there” which I hear often about perch etc. (I’m assuming crappie, like perch are spread by eggs on waterfoul legs) but my question is, are they invasive and problematic to sport fish? He told me they eat walleye eggs. After this comment, I also had to wonder if they’d had many under water predators that can eat them due to their large disk shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeslayer Posted August 24, 2018 Report Share Posted August 24, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 http://www.fishingsimcoe.com/conservation/invading-species It probably all depends on the body of water you are fishing in, crappie eat a lot of baitfish, and you can only assume smaller young gamefish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack_Fisherman Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) Thanks guys. Are they native to Southern and Eastern Ontario? This was on a small lake near Perth. They were hitting like crazy and I had a great time Edited August 25, 2018 by Hack_Fisherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 No idea of their " native " range up there, but they get them all over Ontario, even places like Lake of the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Black crappie are only considered delicious 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 I have a trophy lake that I fish and largemouth bass up to 8 lbs and crappie of 13 inches are co existing. It could get out of balance but they are no more harmful than bluegill and bass combination. The advantage of it is the crappie are excellent table fare and I slow troll for the crappie as I cast for bass. A bonus crappie every little bit is a blast. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 Given the choice of Black Crappie or Rock Bass as an invasive species in a lake, I'd rather the Crappie, we had WGSF's get into a Haliburton smallie lake years ago, fishing was never as good. At least Crappie are tastey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hack_Fisherman Posted August 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, dave524 said: Given the choice of Black Crappie or Rock Bass as an invasive species in a lake, I'd rather the Crappie, we had WGSF's get into a Haliburton smallie lake years ago, fishing was never as good. At least Crappie are tastey. We were at a borrowed cottage so I didn’t keep any. I could have had quite the feed or freezer full what are WGSF’s?? Edited August 25, 2018 by Hack_Fisherman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 37 minutes ago, Hack_Fisherman said: We were at a borrowed cottage so I didn’t keep any. I could have had quite the feed or freezer full We need to talk. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Hack_Fisherman said: what are WGSF’s?? WGSF, World's Greatest Sport Fish , aka Rock Bass . They used to go by that on this board in years past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted August 25, 2018 Report Share Posted August 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, dave524 said: WGSF, World's Greatest Sport Fish , aka Rock Bass . They used to go by that on this board in years past Wonder what ever happen to the WGSF guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 I'm sure that crappie are native to the great lakes and have slowly spread to inland lakes through the lock systems, accidental transfer or intentional illegal stocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lape0019 Posted August 27, 2018 Report Share Posted August 27, 2018 If you were fishing the Perth area, they are most definitely native to the area. It's very possible the local has just never caught them before. They aren't exactly easy to locate typically during the summer months. Unless you're going out f you way to catch them in the spring or fall, no one would ever know they were there. I've caught some pretty big one jerkbaiting for bass in the fall. They are a fun fish when you find a school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauce Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 I don't know the exact time frame, but a lot of people blame black crappie for the decline of the walleye population on lake scugog. Yes/ no / maybe? I really don't know if this is true or not. There are surely members on this site that could elaborate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Chong Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) On 8/24/2018 at 9:00 PM, Hack_Fisherman said: Thanks guys. Are they native to Southern and Eastern Ontario? This was on a small lake near Perth. They were hitting like crazy and I had a great time Many lakes in that area have Black Crappies that are native! Enjoy, catch lots! Oh BTW they are delicious! Edited August 28, 2018 by David Chong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, sauce said: I don't know the exact time frame, but a lot of people blame black crappie for the decline of the walleye population on lake scugog. Yes/ no / maybe? I really don't know if this is true or not. There are surely members on this site that could elaborate... https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/columnists/paul-smith/2018/06/30/can-walleye-populations-rebound-if-bass-and-panfish-reduced/738077002/ That article isn't about Scugog but " But recent studies have shown a link between higher water temperatures and reduced production of walleyes, a cool-water fish. "? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Many lakes near Perth they are native but scugog and Simcoe didn’t have crappie when I first started fishing the lakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 18 hours ago, Terry said: Many lakes near Perth they are native but scugog and Simcoe didn’t have crappie when I first started fishing the lakes They were transplanted by seagull poop. LOL Are Calico bass crappie? Did we make a new name for the calico? Renamed it crappie? Like walleye vs pickeral. I remember as a kid catching use ones on GBAY. I was told they were calico bass then ? Edited August 28, 2018 by misfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 I think the calico handle is just another slang name we Canadians are famous for. lol I had to google calico bass and they're actually a saltwater fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 Well the one I caught was in a marina in port severn. Everyone said it was a calico bass. I thought they were saying chemical bass. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, misfish said: Well the one I caught was in a marina in port severn. Everyone said it was a calico bass. I thought they were saying chemical bass. LOL No, that's Hamilton port!! hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted August 28, 2018 Report Share Posted August 28, 2018 yup Everyone called them calico bass in the smith falls area years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyfx Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Black Crappie are not considered invasive but they having been moving northaward in the province for years. They are becomming more and more common in the Ottawa area. Invasiveness is a tricky subject. As it was in the region it was has not been dicussed as invassive as it was part of our eco system; Likley there is no threat or concern to the local ecosystems as we had similar fish (Small/largemouth bass, Sunfish) with similar habits. Likley the balance of the poplation to some small degree will shift but it is unlikley that oen will win out over the other. They do have natural predators in the enviroment so they will be in check. That being said Pike are considred invasive in zone 15 as they are affecting the ecosystem as a top of the food chain predator; There "invasion" through algonquin park is being tracked very carefully. They are directly impacting the ecosystem of the lakes they are introduced to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmer Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 I caught my first one about fifty years ago around Honey Harbour and my father called it a calico bass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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