captpierre Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) I realize it is still under investigation. They are saying the fuel tanker driver that plowed into the scene was at fault How do you drive a bomb on wheels at highway speed and be inattentive? I dont get it. Horrible for all involved. Edited November 2, 2017 by captpierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Way too many inexperienced drivers driving those trucks. Used to be you had to prove yourself before getting behind the wheel of those huge rigs but now it seems anybody can get a job driving them. Just take a drive down the 401 and it's unbelievable how many lousy drivers are behind the wheel and I'm surprised there aren't even more accidents involving trucks. 70-75 MPH down the road and they're sitting 10 feet behin the guy in front. Edited November 2, 2017 by lew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 I wish we had pics of the scene before the truck showed up. I've seen more idiots stop in the middle of the highway because of a simple fender bender then you can imagine. Just playing devils advocate, let's not assume anything until we get details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 I wish we had pics of the scene before the truck showed up. I've seen more idiots stop in the middle of the highway because of a simple fender bender then you can imagine. Just playing devils advocate, let's not assume anything until we get details. I hear ya. Lots of real idiots on the roads man. Its crazy. The only accident I've ever been involved in, was me exiting the 401, and a guy coming ON the OFF RAMP. I squared him up and nailed him head on. Better me hit him than a big rig. We weren't going fast, but fast enough to write off both vehicles, with no injuries. ( I actually tried to avoid the collision, but he swerved right into me after I swerved away. The off ramp was one lane wide, with concrete barriers on both sides at the time, so I had nowhere to go anyways) I almost rear ended a guy who stopped on the on ramp before merging into traffic on the 401 once too. He just stopped to wait for an opening....seriously... S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 I do not miss driving the 400 every day.. People reversing on the shoulder because they missed their exit, pulling over to the LEFT with a flat tire (So half their car is sticking out into the left lane. Common sense isn't so common, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spincast Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 I drove rigs for more than 15 years and have worked in the industry for over 30. Cost me 4k in 1984 to get my license. There are a ton of factors involved, which I wont go into, that have contributed to where we are today. That being said, tanker drivers are some of the best operators out there. Don't rush to judge, and if you have never been behind the wheel of a tractor trailer, especially on a 400 series highway, you only know a small portion of the story. my condolences to those who lost a family member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted November 2, 2017 Report Share Posted November 2, 2017 i think the top opp guy that made those statements is a moron he sounded liked like judge and jury without knowing any facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Wonder where those speed limiters are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 That was a family friend kill 401 and 28 at Port Hope driver full speed rear end. No excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I wish we had pics of the scene before the truck showed up. I've seen more idiots stop in the middle of the highway because of a simple fender bender then you can imagine. Just playing devils advocate, let's not assume anything until we get details. Is that not the truth....last week on Hwy.9 one of these idiots stopped in front of me right on the hwy. to check an emergency service vehicle that was on the shoulder....his license plate indicated he was a fireman but man that was a real dumb move...I have no problem with somebody slowing down and then pulling over but coming to a complete stop on the hwy. was just insane and no hazards to boot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookinforwalleye Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I hear ya. Lots of real idiots on the roads man. Its crazy. The only accident I've ever been involved in, was me exiting the 401, and a guy coming ON the OFF RAMP. I squared him up and nailed him head on. Better me hit him than a big rig. We weren't going fast, but fast enough to write off both vehicles, with no injuries. ( I actually tried to avoid the collision, but he swerved right into me after I swerved away. The off ramp was one lane wide, with concrete barriers on both sides at the time, so I had nowhere to go anyways) I almost rear ended a guy who stopped on the on ramp before merging into traffic on the 401 once too. He just stopped to wait for an opening....seriously... S. Happens more often than not getting on Hwy.11 south....and it`s usually a couple of bluehairs driving an old Buick!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lew Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Another tractor trailer crashed this morning, this one coming off the 427 ramp to Dundas and rolled over but it seems as if the injuries were only to the 2 in the truck and no other vehicles were involved. Sounds like the ramp will be closed for awhile incase any of you boys use it in your travels today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headhunter Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 TPS is reporting that 5 pedestrians have been hit this morning in the GTA. I keep reminding my kids, just because you have the right of way as a pedestrian, doesn't make you immune to being hit. You have to assume that every vehicle near you can't see you and be on the defense. HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 I worked with a local farmer that was ticket for driving to slow on 115 looking at fields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 TPS is reporting that 5 pedestrians have been hit this morning in the GTA. I keep reminding my kids, just because you have the right of way as a pedestrian, doesn't make you immune to being hit. You have to assume that every vehicle near you can't see you and be on the defense. HH hope the phones were OK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pikeslayer Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 hope the phones were OK This is not remotely funny. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 hey lew just fyi trucks in canada all have to have govenors and cant go any faster than 105 km an hr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 You jest, I dare you to stand on any 400 series highway with a radar gun for an hour. You might not want to get to close, you might get blown away or sucked in by the draft of trucks rolling well over the so called 105 km/h rule . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaspumper Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 hey lew just fyi trucks in canada all have to have govenors and cant go any faster than 105 km an hr You better tell the trucking company/owners that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Distracted driving. Too many long hours for too little pay. Doctored log books. Something like 5000 tractor trailer accidents and 68 relayed deaths this year. As soon as a trucker puts 3 car lengths between him and the next car someone cuts in the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 I know that I wouldn't want to be driving a big rig on the roads with all the idiots I see. You can't just blame the truckers. Most of them are very good operators, but they have to deal with idiots all day long , every day. S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huzzsaba Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 400 is the autobahn of Canadian Highways! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 This is not remotely funny. Not even close. Sadly probably true , https://www.thestar.com/news/queenspark/2017/11/01/texting-while-walking-why-zombies-need-nannies-cohn.html Guess you don't think Darwin jokes are funny either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.mech Posted November 4, 2017 Report Share Posted November 4, 2017 Some interesting facts and figures on declining truck accident rates in the province: http://www.lfpress.com/2017/11/03/opp-boss-blames-truckers-for-401-havoc-official-statistics-suggest-otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garnet Posted November 5, 2017 Report Share Posted November 5, 2017 You can't go 5 miles on any hwy without seeing a big jig 5 car lengths off tiny car. Risking lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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