jimmer Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 It sounds like many are waiting until they come up with a vehicle that doesn't burn fuel.(electric) I doubt anything will change, because greed is greed and it doesn't matter what the product is. Everyone will use supply and demand to explain costs, so the cost of electricity will go up even more when more electrical vehicles hit the road. We're like cattle being lead to slaughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 I went out yesterday and topped up my Honda CRV, Honda Civic, Silverado and my bassboat!! LOL I'm part of the PROBLEM!!! hahahaha Should have drove the John Deere lawn tractor to the gas station too! I don't care what people say, gas pricing is legalized exploitation. I NEED to go fishing therefore I NEED to buy gas. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePa Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just for the record - it was Bill Clinton that signed the NAFTA - not Reagan - also be glad that you can get gas - there was a time in the 70s when you couldn't get gas at any price - I see people buying bottled water at a price higher than gas and just think how easy it is to bottle water than it is to make gas - when the price of gas is high don't ride around as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 #2 sir It would be true if we didn't have HUGE surpluses of gas/oil worldwide Once you work with the consultants you'll hear all about how OPEC operates. It's called financial conditioning in the oil industry Are you talking about supluses of oil in the ground; crude in storage/transit; or refined gasoline? Taking refineries in North America off-line most certainly will affect the supply of refined gasoline in North America. It doesn't matter how much excess crude OPEC (who have nothing to do with this increase) have access to around the world; if you take North American refineries off-line then you will reduce the supply of refined gasoline in North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just for the record - it was Bill Clinton that signed the NAFTA - not Reagan - Yes it was but it was Ronnie and his Irish buddy Brian that started the ball rolling 7 years earlier. 7 years to negotiate it and it's going to be renegotiate in a few months? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 It sounds like many are waiting until they come up with a vehicle that doesn't burn fuel.(electric) I doubt anything will change, because greed is greed and it doesn't matter what the product is. Everyone will use supply and demand to explain costs, so the cost of electricity will go up even more when more electrical vehicles hit the road. We're like cattle being lead to slaughter. Exactly jimmer,if anyone thinks electric vehicles will be less expensive to operate is woefully naïve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Clemens Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Jumping up here in PA as well. Glad I filled up before they jumped today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 some gas stations are already $1.35 a liter.......damn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 some gas stations are already $1.35 a liter.......damn And here my toon sits on empty,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted September 1, 2017 Report Share Posted September 1, 2017 Exactly jimmer,if anyone thinks electric vehicles will be less expensive to operate is woefully naïve. Yeah, they are getting a free ride right now (subsidized purchase price and no gas taxes) and still cost more than a gas vehicle. If electric vehicles become popular, the government will have to find an alternative source of revenue to replace the taxes that they currently collect from gasoline sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketchenany Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 JB you are correct. I'm now in a "study" area where they will study electricity pricing! Drop it here and raise it there FREE thermastats, another ton of $$$$. So they said it will drop 25%, it hasn't yet. I wrote the Minister of energy, my MPP and Whiinie and by the time this study is finished we will probably be paying more I don't old them. NO answer as usual. SInce gas prices are going up why don't they reduce the taxes to help us out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Gas in Lindsay was between 116.9 to 126.9 and the radio says going to be around 133.9 in the morning. What a rip off!! Did all the stations holding tanks go up in price even if it was already filled a day two before? This is a freaking cash grab and it's a piss off!. Edited September 2, 2017 by GBW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Its called the biggest freakin scam going if you ask me! Went from $1.04 to $126.4....how is that even legal? This country is doomed. S. Yup. Biggest scam out there. Look at the price per barrel, why are we paying the prices we are at the pumps? Makes zero sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Yup. Biggest scam out there. Look at the price per barrel, why are we paying the prices we are at the pumps? Makes zero sense. 100% why it's a rip off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Told you guys it's one of the biggest rackets going, probably only second to big pharma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillM Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm glad I drive a diesel and get great mileage, but still. Perhaps a few protests and burnt cars would do the trick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Told you guys it's one of the biggest rackets going, probably only second to big pharma Insurance is right up there too. Friggen scammers!! S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinker Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm glad I drive a diesel and get great mileage, but still. Perhaps a few protests and burnt cars would do the trick? Where do I sign up?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowball Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 Gas as high as $1 359/L in Thunder Bay Ontario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Gas as high as $1 359/L in Thunder Bay OntarioDamn!!!! Still sitting at $1.09 in emo Probably jump by tomorrow Edited September 2, 2017 by manitoubass2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm glad I drive a diesel and get great mileage, but still. Perhaps a few protests and burnt cars would do the trick? .98 In Angus today Bill. I stood back and listen to a local shout, your a %^%#^ crook. You raised your price, yet you are still selling the same gas. You didnt get a %$^$%&^ new load, so why are you raising the price. It was hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoePa Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 When your dealing with fuel - oil, gas, coal etc. - you do your pricing on what is called replacement cost - not on the cost of the fuel you have in storage - I worked for a power company and that was how the cost of the electricity was determined - if it was a coal burning station the cost of its output was determined on the cost of coal at the time not on the cost of the coal pile out in the coal yard - that's the same way gas is priced - if done right the cost of gas will go down even if the gas being sold cost more - now here is the rub - in the power industry there are rules that must be followed but I don't know if there is anyone watching if the gas stations are doing the way it is suppose to work - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 When your dealing with fuel - oil, gas, coal etc. - you do your pricing on what is called replacement cost - not on the cost of the fuel you have in storage - I worked for a power company and that was how the cost of the electricity was determined - if it was a coal burning station the cost of its output was determined on the cost of coal at the time not on the cost of the coal pile out in the coal yard - that's the same way gas is priced - if done right the cost of gas will go down even if the gas being sold cost more - now here is the rub - in the power industry there are rules that must be followed but I don't know if there is anyone watching if the gas stations are doing the way it is suppose to work - Average Joes, do not know this, and I would think as well, they should not be raising the price with old stock in the tank. I think that is the biggest piss off to the consumers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketchenany Posted September 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 (edited) Brian, your tank is empty! I was reading a news report from UK and their prices are going up because of the storm. HOW DOES THIS WORK? Not even close! Edited September 2, 2017 by ketchenany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 When your dealing with fuel - oil, gas, coal etc. - you do your pricing on what is called replacement cost - not on the cost of the fuel you have in storage - I worked for a power company and that was how the cost of the electricity was determined - if it was a coal burning station the cost of its output was determined on the cost of coal at the time not on the cost of the coal pile out in the coal yard - that's the same way gas is priced - if done right the cost of gas will go down even if the gas being sold cost more - now here is the rub - in the power industry there are rules that must be followed but I don't know if there is anyone watching if the gas stations are doing the way it is suppose to work - That's just it Joe, gas prices jump $0.05 to $0.20 overnight based on what you call replacement cost, but it'll take months for it to retreat back to the original price...longer if they can find enough turmoil in the world to justify higher pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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