BillM Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Now people will just keep their reports in their back pocket. I just can't wrap my head around this, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerGuy Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 I don't have any words for this!!!... This is so stupid! I gotta say those are some WORLD class brookies!! I have always dreamed of trip like that, I thought brookies like that could only be caught is at some crazy expensive Northern fly trip! Will I put the effort to learn the area and find those fish.. probably never.. but it stays on my bucket list for sure!!! I don't know any fisherman willing to rough it for those fish.. but if I could find someone to do it with .. I'd be in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBW Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Now people will just keep their reports in their back pocket. I just can't wrap my head around this, lol YUP! I hope Terry is right that because his child was with him it's not released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 It really seems ironic that someone can request information under the Act anonymously!? Or did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 It really seems ironic that someone can request information under the Act anonymously!? Or did he? Yes! It's not only borderline creepy, but I didn't even know you could request such information With the things I've been though lately, I'd be pissed and fighting that tooth and nail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeytier Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Sounds like things are looking up, and the information may not end up being disclosed. Definitely a precedent-setting story, being in the spotlight of the angling community like this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickingfrog Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Not sure how one could argue that there is any need for the right to that information. On the flip side, if this summers eve gets your info one could then request the camp site info of all the campers in those lakes for the next few years and compare to the last few years and see how many "new" names appear. See how twisted this request for information is? Edited July 20, 2017 by kickingfrog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimsbylander Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Not sure how one could argue that there is any need for the right to that information. On the flip side, if this summers eve gets your info one could then request the camp site info of all the campers in those lakes for the next few years and compare to the last few years and see how many "new" names appear. See how twisted this request for information is? Yup, and cross reference with the members on his forum. I'll just bet he's on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Im releasing all fishing information live as I fish. I want to get out in front of any freedom of information requests. Reminds me of one time I was up about 20 fish to 1 with the guy in the front of the boat. I passed him my rod. He still caught nothing. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Ironmaker Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 This is one of the strangest things I have come across in a long while, actually creepy as someone said. Where is OUR privacy today? I can understand some secrecy especially on small bodies of water. I remember watching an In-Fisherman episode where they proved 2 very good Bass guys could fish out a body of water in 2 days and not a pond. Tagged all the fish and caught only tagged fish day 3. But some go to ridiculous measures to keep there special spots secret. You can be 10 feet away and not catch a fish in the same boat that buddy is slamming them. Just like someone said above. There's more to it than knowing the body of water. I hope the creep goes to the lake and falls overboard, or better yet get SKUNKED. That would be justice for the goof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 im sure a piece of crap like that would be too lazy to get into those lakes....its not an easy trekk! my fear would be that the loser would post the lakes publicly....if so he would be publicly shamed what bad character That's the ironic part. Very few people reading Mike's post would go through all the effort to get to those lakes. I am quite an avid canoeist and have, in my younger days, done some rough portages---not as tough as they did,though. That would be well beyond my capabilities right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 I think if he goes with the fact that a minor boy was camping at those locations and it would be against the minors civil rights to disclose that info it may get blocked Shouldn't is go against anybody's civil rights regardless of their age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 i agree but if he pushes the government that he will sue if they give out info that tracks his minor son ,the fact that they are asking for the location that a minor sleeps and goes to the washroom he just might stop it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aplumma Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 An update is Mike has been in contact with them and has files a complaint to be reviewed. This has taken up quite a bit of his time and I am sure we here at OFC will be supporting him if he needs it. Thanks for all of the support and if you want to read the latest you can find his facebook page here. https://www.facebook.com/mike.borger.71?fref=ufi Always a good read here. Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris.brock Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 That's the ironic part. Very few people reading Mike's post would go through all the effort to get to those lakes. I know what you're saying, but those spring brook trout guys can be a passionate bunch. They'd go to the moon if they thought the mother load of brookies was there. In some of Mike's other posts, he said he got bombarded with guys asking where he was in the park. It will be interesting to see how this one plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 The real shame is, that we share our adventures, trials and tribulations of a fishing episode. It for the most of us, is to share and hope each and everyone, will enjoy our outings. Why do others need to know the wheres? Why, can you just not read or watch the great adventure from those that have put the time in? I do not get the law thing here, or do I understand what it means. This is another mess the WWW has created and become. I am not a FB fan, nor a member. Im sure these fishing sites are of no difference, but not the same following numbers as FB. You tube is no different. Yes I post on said site, but I post not to be a bused, or to be asked where, but to share my fishing delight. If I were to come across what Mike has, I would stop posting. I am no Mike Borger, I am but a spit of what he has done. I goof around with my reports,they are minuscule,but no matter, a post of fishing, no scratch that, a post of any means, dose not give the right of anyone, to ask, or , demand, info of the said report. I know from reading many reports, Mike has helped many people, yet he gets this slap in the face. Someone is trying to pull strings here. I hope that someone loops a string on this persons balls and pulls it so tight, his balls turn blue and purple, then fall off like a unwanted mole. With that said We are our own worst enemy in this WWW. Sad ,as it may be, it is true, and very SAD. Win this one for the future Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch01 Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) I'm not even certain this information would be subject to a freedom of information request due to privacy considerations. Does anyone know for sure the request was filed, or is it possible the guy who said it is all talk? Edited July 20, 2017 by Dutch01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanD Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) Misfish X2 Very well said. Dan. Edited July 20, 2017 by DanD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch01 Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) If there is a request made, I don't think it will succeed: Unavailable records Not all information is available through Freedom of Information (FOI) requests. Some records cannot be released under Freedom of Information laws. Exclusions and exemptions include: -cabinet records -court records -records containing certain law enforcement information -records that could prejudice intergovernmental relations *****-personal information that could invade the privacy of an individual***** Taken from: https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-make-freedom-information-request#section-1 Edited July 20, 2017 by Dutch01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manitoubass2 Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 The real shame is, that we share our adventures, trials and tribulations of a fishing episode. It for the most of us, is to share and hope each and everyone, will enjoy our outings. Why do others need to know the wheres? Why, can you just not read or watch the great adventure from those that have put the time in? I do not get the law thing here, or do I understand what it means. This is another mess the WWW has created and become. I am not a FB fan, nor a member. Im sure these fishing sites are of no difference, but not the same following numbers as FB. You tube is no different. Yes I post on said site, but I post not to be a bused, or to be asked where, but to share my fishing delight. If I were to come across what Mike has, I would stop posting. I am no Mike Borger, I am but a spit of what he has done. I goof around with my reports,they are minuscule,but no matter, a post of fishing, no scratch that, a post of any means, dose not give the right of anyone, to ask, or , demand, info of the said report. I know from reading many reports, Mike has helped many people, yet he gets this slap in the face. Someone is trying to pull strings here. I hope that someone loops a string on this persons balls and pulls it so tight, his balls turn blue and purple, then fall off like a unwanted mole. With that said We are our own worst enemy in this WWW. Sad ,as it may be, it is true, and very SAD. Win this one for the future Mike ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Well said comments above, I like to read Brians' and others adventures, but dam, I'm sure we can all go out and find our own honey hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Does anyone know for sure the request was filed, Yes, the request has been filed and Mike Borger has been asked to respond to MNR due to the request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch01 Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Yes, the request has been filed and Mike Borger has been asked to respond to MNR due to the request. That's crazy. I'm not shocked someone would stoop to this level, but I'm shocked the MNR is even considering the request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatnFly Posted July 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 I'm not even certain this information would be subject to a freedom of information request due to privacy considerations. Does anyone know for sure the request was filed, or is it possible the guy who said it is all talk? yes, Mike recieved a 6 page letter from the MNR with his itinerary from Algonquin attached, he has to plead his case in why this information should not be released I talked to him via PM today, said to to tell them that this was a private family vacation that he had with his son that had nothing to do with work. if it was work related, it would be a different story, and hed almost be obligated to release the information to promote the guide/lodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRIFTER_016 Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 I'm not even certain this information would be subject to a freedom of information request due to privacy considerations. Does anyone know for sure the request was filed, or is it possible the guy who said it is all talk? Mike has a 6 page letter from the MNR detailing the request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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