Sterling Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) So in my last thread I asked for some advice as to where I should take the wife for a 1 week fishing getaway. Kipawa really stood out, and I'm locked in for the 14th-20th. We haven't had the opportunity to fish walleye at all this spring/summer/fall, so I really need to put her on some. A quick study of the lake shows that Kipawa is branchy, deep and big. I'm staying in a bay near the public boat launch on the southern end of the lake (circled in red). This time of year I imagine fish will still be in 30-40 FOW. Some have mentioned a potential lake turnover, so the first thing I'll do is verify that the thermocline is there. I have a temperature probe that will do this for me. Honestly I'm not too concerned about a turnover, I think this will happen in November. The areas marked on the map are either large bowls in the 30-40 FOW range, or sunken islands I plan on hitting in the evening/mornings. Here are some screenies of the areas, in an imgur album. I plan on trying the following, in order; Troll harnesses at depth (0.5-1mph) Troll shad raps at depth (1.5mph) Drag bottom bouncers. Still fish or drift with leeches. Do 3 & 4 on humps at night. Does this seem like a reasonable plan? Should I switch up the order? I don't know the lake at all. Been there as a kid a couple times but that's it. If anyone could add some tips I'd greatly appreciate it! Edited October 13, 2016 by Sterling
floater Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 I was there in August for three days. Launched and stayed at a campground right in the town of Kipawa. I got nothing the first two days but on the third I got 9 nice pickerel in three hours. Drifting with the wind along the side of an island in 30 fow. Green propeller jig with a worm did the trick. Your areas all look promising though. I tried the worm harness for awhile but it was too windy and I kept losing contact with the bottom. Good luck
duke01 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 It is a huge system to fish. It was probably 10 years ago that i was there and it was tough fishing. Watch out because the lake gets rough fast and the shoals are very random. I think your approach sounds good and you should bring all your tricks to that lake.
JoshS Posted October 13, 2016 Report Posted October 13, 2016 Can't help you with Kipawa but I like the thread... critiquing the plan of attack! The target daytime depth seems to make sense. Can't go wrong fishing mid lake humps with live bait and I wouldn't fish slow anywhere with a blank screen (that's a given). I bet you could find the larger fish at night up relatively shallow.
OhioFisherman Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 My dad was there once, like 50 years ago and in the spring. Not sure I would focus on 30-40 feet of water, it's October and the water is cooling, I would probably start a lot shallower 6-10 feet.
T-Bone Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 Been there last 17 years in late July and always get fish. Some years silly good...others just ok. If you're staying down around the town of Kipawa good luck. Don't hear of great success down there ever. We jig fish 99% of the time and I don't believe I see that in your plan. Different time though. Beautiful lake...very expansive...thousands of spots...but which one is on is the game.Took us about 6-7 years to dial it in. Good luck.
Old Ironmaker Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 As Ohio Fisherman start shallower and work deeper. In my experience a Shad Rap at less than 1.5 MPH is too slow. Don't Pigeon hole yourself to a specific trolling speed, vary the speed the fish will tell you fast or slow. I like a harness slow too. Blow your worms full of air, get a syringe at a pharmacy. That is a big system to work with 1 boat. Ask where at a local bait/tackle shop, they want you to do well. I always look at the racks and see what tackle has less on it, that may be the ticket Try a Lindy Rig and floating Jig head for drifting Leeches etc. I like the Leeches best as live bait for drifting You are wasting valuable time still fishing unless you know you are on a school or it is a hole that has produced Start with trolling covering as much water as possible Work the shores and Islands on the windward side. With all that structure I would be stumped as to where to start. A few cold beers, some Hi Test and snacks offered to locals and others that have been there before can be better than the most expensive electronics. I like your approach. A job without a plan is a plan for disaster. Go get em. And you two stay safe. If the catching is poor the Fall colours will be fantastic. Enjoy.
smitty55 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 Probably too late now but good luck on your trip. If the lodge has a main dock with lights on don't discount some shore night fishing. Don't forget the lawn chairs and beer/wine. I won best Pickerel of the trip off the dock at Alwaki one year on our last night lol. Twister tail with a salted Emerald if I recall hehe. Cast, slip float, jig or drop shot are all good options. Have fun. Cheers
Joeytier Posted October 14, 2016 Report Posted October 14, 2016 Just got off Kipawa yesterday, was moose hunting and not fishing, though. Lake was about 57 degrees and will be more like 54-55 now. Don't be surprised if you have a hard time finding fish. I would start shallow with fairly aggressive presentations first. Last week they were definitely shallow and feeding up. Also, the lake is down at least 3 feet from summer levels now, so there will be hazards that aren't marked all over the lake. You'll be in the back of Jawbone's bay which is a pretty spot, work with a few people that live down there.
Sterling Posted October 17, 2016 Author Report Posted October 17, 2016 Update guys, water is still 57, not muchluck though. I posted a thread on the kipawa forums, here's a copy of it in case anyone has pointers : Hi all, I'm currently camping on the southern arm of kipawa and not having much success. From what I read it seems the southeast arm of the lake is probably a better area? Anyone know of a place to launch? I've tried pretty much everything in the south end without much success (only 4 so far), including down rigging at 30, harnesses, jigging, etc. Only action was at sundown. Is there something else I should try? Any tips are appreciated!
OhioFisherman Posted October 17, 2016 Report Posted October 17, 2016 57 is easily within their comfort range, find baitfish? feeding areas? A jig and twister tail? tip it with a piece of crawler or gulp? Swim it slow, cover water?
sauce Posted October 17, 2016 Report Posted October 17, 2016 I fished there years ago. We stayed near Hunters narrows at white birch point camp. We never had much luck fishing for walleyes during daytime. Sundown was when we would get into them. The few walleyes we did catch during the day were caught downrigging for Lakers. 25 to 30 feet down on 3" spoons. Back then our walleye fishing was heavily reliant on live bait. Worms and leeches. We would typically anchor and jig next to the boat. Lots of known sunset hotspots. I'm sure you have noticed boats stacking up late in the day. We did find a few spots of our own back in coves. But always seemed to do better when we joined the masses in the community holes.
Old Ironmaker Posted October 17, 2016 Report Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) We never even bothered fishing for Eyes during the day when we had our annual spring and fall trips. Early supper and on the water by 6PM. Day was spent fishing for Pike, golfing, hunting for wild garlic was fun or going to the Ballet in the afternoon. Just because we were a gang of Steelworkers didn't mean we weren't cultured. Edited October 17, 2016 by Old Ironmaker
AKRISONER Posted October 18, 2016 Report Posted October 18, 2016 if im hunting eyes right now...im finding where they spawn and im dead sticking minnows in their doorway. Id be looking for somewhere the water is flowing into the lake and hitting them where they stage in 12-20 FOW.
Sinker Posted October 18, 2016 Report Posted October 18, 2016 if im hunting eyes right now...im finding where they spawn and im dead sticking minnows in their doorway. Id be looking for somewhere the water is flowing into the lake and hitting them where they stage in 12-20 FOW. You know the spawn in the spring right? lol
AKRISONER Posted October 18, 2016 Report Posted October 18, 2016 You know the spawn in the spring right? lol ya and they stage where they spawn and eat like a bunch of fatsos theres a reason we catch no pickerel in september and then catch 40 in a morning in late october...
Sinker Posted October 19, 2016 Report Posted October 19, 2016 Yeah, water temp and turnover. Spawning has nothing to do with it.
AKRISONER Posted October 19, 2016 Report Posted October 19, 2016 Yeah, water temp and turnover. Spawning has nothing to do with it. is that why they are nowhere to be found in september but come october they are moving exactly to where they are spawning? fish do move....
OhioFisherman Posted October 19, 2016 Report Posted October 19, 2016 is that why they are nowhere to be found in september but come october they are moving exactly to where they are spawning? fish do move.... We used to do a September trip every year, try the channel between Payne's and Brignall's, no numbers, but some biggies.
AKRISONER Posted October 19, 2016 Report Posted October 19, 2016 We used to do a September trip every year, try the channel between Payne's and Brignall's, no numbers, but some biggies. yup yup...know that one.
Sinker Posted October 19, 2016 Report Posted October 19, 2016 is that why they are nowhere to be found in september but come october they are moving exactly to where they are spawning? fish do move.... MmmmHmm....they are staging 6 months before the spawn. Make sense..... S.
chris.brock Posted October 19, 2016 Report Posted October 19, 2016 they're foraging, I don't think "staging" is the right word
Mister G Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 they're foraging, I don't think "staging" is the right word Bingo..........fall fishing has NOTHING to do with fish staging for spawning in 6 months. The walleyes will do different things in different lake all depending on forage of that particular lake in question. Most times after turn over walleyes will be found in deep drop offs feeding on forage which could be miles away from where they will eventually spawn. However, prior to a turn over in early fall, many walleyes are working shallow areas at night frogging.
AKRISONER Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) Bingo..........fall fishing has NOTHING to do with fish staging for spawning in 6 months. The walleyes will do different things in different lake all depending on forage of that particular lake in question. Most times after turn over walleyes will be found in deep drop offs feeding on forage which could be miles away from where they will eventually spawn. However, prior to a turn over in early fall, many walleyes are working shallow areas at night frogging. Im speaking on experience here...but this is the exact opposite of where I fish my eyes. I let my numbers speak for themselves. Edited October 20, 2016 by AKRISONER
Mister G Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 So am I and will match your numbers with mine anytime.
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