BillM Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Shoot three times. Ok. Shoot nine times. NG. What about four to eight times? Get the max number then only load that many rounds into your gun. 1 shot or 9 it makes zero difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) my aunt is on the police force in Hamilton. she told me last night this sentence has caused a divide among the blue in Hamilton.... the minority of cops here she advised want to see a full punishment for this murdering man (can't call him a cop, now that is has been let go without pay).... HOWEVER, unfortunately the majority of the police here in Hamilton, like the one on this thread, will automatically defend any and all cops, in any and all situations.... ahhh well... tides are turning. little brother is watching... and the days ahead will be much different than the days of the past..... Who would have thought when cops asked for CCTV everywhere...you know....for the safety of the public would backfire like it has.... Now there are more folks with cell phones than CCTV, and aren't the slightest bit scared of filming cops stepping out of line. With the direct streaming options, cops can't even take your cell phone and delete (or steal) your memory cards.... Times they are a' changin. Edit: grammar Edited July 29, 2016 by Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 tone z71 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 He will get his inside ..he looks like a goof he will get what's coming to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 but he's already out.... and the appeals court might get painted blue..... so who knows if the charge will even stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddler Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 I don't give a rat's patewy who it is. Murder is murder. I've said it before, "OUR LEGAL SYSTEM SUCKS!" big time. There are too many psychos with a badge out there. They are the ones that ruin it for the decent cop that works hard and puts his/her life on the line to , "serve and protect" every day. We need regular psychiatric assessment before, during a cop's employment and especially after a traumatic service of duty. Lethal force MUST be the last resort in all situations not the first as it is in the US. Abuse of leathal force MUST result in a guilty verdict, and to heck with the legal mumbo jumbo. Murder is murder. Cops have a very dangerous job, no doubt about it, but they choose to be a cop, no one forced them to become one. My 2 cents .......Mud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenboater Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Two things. TPS have obviously not learned how to deal with people with mental health issues (see Edmond Yu)/ He was obviously not mentally fit to be an officer (imo) if he couldn't wait for a commanding officer to arrive with the taser and no other officer seemed particularly concerned such as he was and one officer in fact holstered her service revolver. He should NEVER wear a badge ever again. He's not even fit to be a mall cop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BITEME Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 I want to say first I have a deep respect for police and the job they do!!! That being said this turd was way out of line..... a kid on an empty bus with a small knife 2 cops with guns (where was the taser) and all the time in the world to keep him on the bus and wait for a dog anyway he was way out of line after the second shot not to mention the next 8 this guy should not be on the street his butt should be in a cell awaiting his appeal this is really bad optics and just plain wrong he should be banned for life from firearms and never be allowed to be a cop anywhere and before it happens his situation was secure and he was not in danger it was way over the line put him in general I certainly don't want to pay for his special treatment turds should be flushed my 2 cents Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henricus Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) ...... Edited July 30, 2016 by Henricus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Oh if we could only walk a mile in their shoes! I am not defending him, to be honest with you I think he crossed the line but: have you ever had one of those days when......... We don't know what was going through either of their minds on that night. Yes we have a trained professional who in my opinion didn't follow what I would have expected his training to have dictated his course of action BUT, just because you have been trained doesn't mean you are qualified. Accountability is sadly lacking in not only our police forces but in every walk of life. Our kids are taught that their parents will fix everything, our politicians lie to us all the time and then lie some more, the gang bangers shoot at each other then walk away with suspended sentences. How are we ever going to expect respect for our laws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GbayGiant Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 same situation. different outcome.. Man with knife on TTC bus apprehended after 5 hours of negotiation http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/man-with-knife-on-ttc-bus-apprehended-after-5-hours-of-negotiation-1.3702249 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 His training say he should try to de-escalate these situations. So what does this murderous thug in a uniform do?? The very opposite. Far to light a sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey buoy Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 His training say he should try to de-escalate these situations. So what does this murderous thug in a uniform do?? The very opposite. Far to light a sentence. Fully agree!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomkat Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 Skinny little messed up kid with a small knife. They could have talked him into dropping it or a lot of guys could have just taken it off of him. So sad such a terrible decision and over use of force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bare foot wader Posted August 1, 2016 Report Share Posted August 1, 2016 same situation. different outcome.. Man with knife on TTC bus apprehended after 5 hours of negotiation http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/man-with-knife-on-ttc-bus-apprehended-after-5-hours-of-negotiation-1.3702249 different situation, here's why: "None of the initial calls indicated that anyone on the bus had been threatened, Douglas-Cook said" Yatim was not at all innocent.... the situation didn't need to end the way it did, that much I can agree with....the Forcillo sentencing was adequate imo, he messed up and will pay the consequences...but everybody calling Yatim a kid, "tiny" knife, etc...please, give me a break, that's pure bull crap....he was an adult...he had a knife, 5" blade is not a tiny swiss army pocket knife...he threatened and attacked people on the bus....he did not have a history of mental illness, no medical records and his family claims he didn't, unless that has changed since last I followed all this drama.....the adult decided to to pop some E and railed a few lines, then raged out on the street car and attacked innocent people....ZERO sympathy for his death there was a pic floating around when this first happened, somebody painted "the good die young" or something to that affect on the sidewalk...I wonder if the McGregor sisters or anybody else on the street car would say he's a good guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucktownAngler Posted August 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 (edited) my aunt is on the police force in Hamilton. she told me last night this sentence has caused a divide among the blue in Hamilton.... the minority of cops here she advised want to see a full punishment for this murdering man (can't call him a cop, now that is has been let go without pay).... HOWEVER, unfortunately the majority of the police here in Hamilton, like the one on this thread, will automatically defend any and all cops, in any and all situations.... what happened to the "just a few bad apples" ? sounds like the majority are corrupt, and not fit to be in uniform cant say that im surprised https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2012/05/30/rookie_cop_takes_heat_for_arresting_offduty_officer.html Edited August 3, 2016 by Boss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NANUK Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 Here is an example of a seemingly harmless routine situation turning in to a very dangerous one ( notice the size of that knife ) And an example of a very good cop, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave524 Posted August 3, 2016 Report Share Posted August 3, 2016 And then there is always this situation, who know's what is going on in the mind of someone on multiple drugs ? http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/after-officer-shoots-suicidal-teen-police-find-an-apology-note-addressed-to-them/ar-BBva1sg?li=AAggv0m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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