BucktownAngler Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2016/07/28/const-james-forcillo-sammy-yatim-shooting-sentence.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkrp Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 He should have been sentenced for 10 years for every bullet he fired after the initial three that had already been prooven to be fatal. Forcillo is a cold hearted murderer and should be treated as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 lets hope the appeal court doesn't turn "blue". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaf4 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) How does it make sense that the charges laid are for the second round of shots if he was already deceased after the first? How can it be considered attempted murder after he was already dead...? Seems weird the way the sentencing is termed Plus how much consideration was given to the danger of the girls and the rest of the street car on his behalf (yatim brandishing a knife) Edited July 28, 2016 by Lucas F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishing n autograph Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Except that gang bangers shooting at each other don't get 6 years. The kid that killed Garrett Styles in Newmarket got no time for killing a cop. Forcillo shouldn't have gotten any time. The conviction doesn't make any sense either Edited July 28, 2016 by FishnNAutographs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 How does it make sense that the charges laid are for the second round of shots if he was already deceased after the first? How can it be considered attempted murder after he was already dead...? Seems weird the way the sentencing is termed Plus how much consideration was given to the danger of the girls and the rest of the street car on his behalf (yatim brandishing a knife) The charge does seem weird. But the logic is that the cop didn't know that the first three shots were fatal. Taking six shots at someone that he didn't know was already dead or dying was deemed to be attempted murder. p.s. There were no other people on board at the time of the shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leaf4 Posted July 28, 2016 Report Share Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) The charge does seem weird. But the logic is that the cop didn't know that the first three shots were fatal. Taking six shots at someone that he didn't know was already dead or dying was deemed to be attempted murder. p.s. There were no other people on board at the time of the shooting. Still doesn't make sense, watch this video from 40 seconds on, or all of it lol https://youtu.be/89VWeqSKPcU Edited July 29, 2016 by Lucas F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkrp Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 A classiç çase of our judicial system protecting an evil individual only because the same system deemed him fit to wear a uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npt1 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Officer went way too far , firing continuously is not acceptable. He had other Officers there as back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeytier Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Everyone here knows he won't actually do 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuro2 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Could this be another major difference between the US and Canada...a criminal conviction of a police officer in the line of duty for killing a civilian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 but he wasnt convicted of murder, was he... I thought he was convicted of attempted murder, for the 6 extra shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuro2 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) ...any criminal conviction including attempted murder while on duty. Did a quick little search...US criminal charges usually are either for off duty police officers..or the few ones I found go back several decades or back to prohibition Edited July 29, 2016 by scuro2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeontroller Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) Except that gang bangers shooting at each other don't get 6 years. The kid that killed Garrett Styles in Newmarket got no time for killing a cop. Forcillo shouldn't have gotten any time. The conviction doesn't make any sense either Yup, its a sad day when a cop can't shoot someone 9 times without going to jail...What is our world coming to? Edited July 29, 2016 by Pigeontroller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Shoot three times. Ok. Shoot nine times. NG. What about four to eight times? Get the max number then only load that many rounds into your gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KLINKER Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Might get a few cops off the roids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bacon Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Shoot three times. Ok. Shoot nine times. NG. What about four to eight times? Get the max number then only load that many rounds into your gun. There is more to it than the number of shots fired. He fired three shots, then waited several seconds before firing the remaining shots. The courts just couldn't justify the second round of shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckewley Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Except that gang bangers shooting at each other don't get 6 years. The kid that killed Garrett Styles in Newmarket got no time for killing a cop. Forcillo shouldn't have gotten any time. The conviction doesn't make any sense either I have to ask, in your opinion what punishment if any should Forcillo receive? I do believe he may have been justified with the initial shot(s) but 9 shows something is amiss in the wiring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Did they ask him why nine. What does training tell him to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GbayGiant Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) Out of all the police STANDING THERE with no gun drawn. You'd think someone else would have fired as well...So many who are trained the same way. to think the same way and react the same way to these type of situations. He stood there ...fired....and made sure he would not survive. The charges do not seem to be enough. As for the "gain banger." The public never saw a video of what transpired. So its a rather moot point. But we can all take your word for it. Edited July 29, 2016 by GbayGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish_fishburn Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 I hope the two thugs in Ottawa are crapping in their boots watching this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dozer Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) The kid was standing on a streetcar with a knife. A splash of water and he could of been neutralized. Forcillo was someone who was unfit to be an officer. Edited July 29, 2016 by Dozer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishindevil Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 he is now out of jail .....while his appeal is being heard....one night in protective custody....what a joke....not such a tough guy now is he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKRISONER Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 heres how i take it and im sure someone here is going to lose it on me but this is my opinion so whatever. I am of the firm belief that we must all do what we can to avoid the dangers of criminals and the like around us. Its really no different than someone complaining about being assaulted while walking alone through a bad neighborhood in the middle of the night. Ill make it clear, that no one and i mean absolutely nobody at all deserves to be murdered/shot or assaulted. People like to go on about victim blaming, but im a firm believer that we are all responsible for our own well being. If you really truly are an innocent victim i.e. jane creba or one of these mass shooting victims...i feel immense sadness for you...but if you become a victim of crime because you are a criminal, i have a lot less sympathy for you directly. The kid clearly had some mental issues, by refusing to back down he placed himself in a very very precarious situation. It just so happened that he crossed the wrong guy that day and ended up paying the ultimate price for it. People die every day that do far less or are much better people than this guy. So do i feel really bad for the guy? Not particularly...maybe im cold hearted that way. I do believe that this sentence is a joke though...the cop murdered him. The additional 6 shots while the guy is laying dead on the ground proves the intent. In the end i feel the worst for the victims parents, and for the murderers family cause both dont deserve the trauma that they are experiencing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuro2 Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) 6 years doesn't sound ridiculous. If we go on the principle that cops are trained to kill when threatened then the first three shots are apparently excusable under the law. Knowing that he most likely died from the first three shots the next 6 takes any doubt out of the equation. So probably dead but the excess shots would be the attempt to make sure he was dead...attempted murder. Was this guy given a job he should never have had, was he properly trained to deal with the mentally ill? There are mitigating circumstances. Considering everything the judgement is not perfect but one can live with it. He serves 2-3 years but his career and reputation is ruined. Edited July 29, 2016 by scuro2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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