fish_fishburn Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Rona Ambrose says she is outraged by the Supreme Courts ruling that medical marijuana users can take their medicine any way they want to. Either smoke it, consume it in edibles or make oil or tincture from it. The old law was to smoke it only and if taken any other way and get caught by the cops you could be arrested. Harper and his henchman appealed this ruling three times in the Supreme Court of B.C. before it went to the Supreme Court of Canada for final ruling.and he lost. No kidding. It only cost the tax payers 10.5 million in legal fees to represent the feds. I am outraged that Rona Ambrose is our Health Minister she is such a fool. Lets see how outraged she is next November when she tries to find a new job. She does have nice hair though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 Harper is a hitler when it comes to any form of legalization. He'll be gone soon enough...thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 I fully agree with the federal governments reservations re; medical marijuana. Harper = Hitler is just a ridiculous and offensive statement. Just ask my father and mother who grew up in Holland during the war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWhite Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) I fully agree with the federal governments reservations re; medical marijuanar. I guess that makes you a minority. Welcome to the future. No more carcinogens. How could a forward government openly condone smoking.... Anything? It's an obvious answer to an obvious mistake. (Issuing federal laws allowing SMOKING of Marijuana) Edited June 11, 2015 by SirWhite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 "is a" as in, the way harper rules is a "hitler way". not harper = hitler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 i knew what you meant , and no problems seems some people take political correctness to extremes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted June 11, 2015 Report Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) I just wonder what Rona's been smokin'! What's the point of being outraged(other than the obvious political game). The gov't appealed and lost---end of story---move on!! (But, yeah, nice hair---maybe a beauty parlour job after the next election!!) Edited June 12, 2015 by SirCranksaLot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkrp Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Rona is in desperate need of a Reno......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pics Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 While I don't condone the pothead culture I believe it could be great medicine for many ailments. I have vertigo and I think it would help my symptoms but I'd rather it be in a controlled dose pill.. Big pharma isn't the answer either... The reform party type of thinking is taking over our current government... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallie Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Im fairly certain there are medicines out there that have far worse side effects than pot, its the stigma alone that makes this such a gong show. Smoking pot has got to be the least effective and most unhealthy way to consume it for its medical benefits, im glad this ruling has put this to bed and i hope the people who need it most can make the best use of it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosebunk Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 It can be medicine, sure! Curious if anyone knows how much of this medicine,(wondering percentages) is covered by OHIP? Otherwise, who's paying for it? Taxpayer or solely the patient? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Caster Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Conservative government is supposed to be a free market/business government. Yet they highly regulate a market they have recently created. It's a market based solely in healthcare and they force sick people to smoke this product, including if you have lung cancer and use medical pot as treatment. It's so silly and political ... If you are going to legalize it for medical reasons, then base it on medical science, not your political base. Pure nonsense on their part, it's completely see-through. Recreational users should have no say in this debate, it should be all about it's medicinal properties and the best/healthiest way to administer it to those that can benefit from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moosebunk Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Conservatives have all but burned any science and banished Scientists... Of course it's all left to nonsense now. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFisherman Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Im fairly certain there are medicines out there that have far worse side effects than pot, its the stigma alone that makes this such a gong show. Smoking pot has got to be the least effective and most unhealthy way to consume it for its medical benefits, im glad this ruling has put this to bed and i hope the people who need it most can make the best use of it now. I tend to agree with this, if you don't smoke anything you should be forced to for help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck2fan Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Rona must be hoping to get a favorable write up from Maureen Dowd for when she is looking for work in the US after the election... The evidence is very clear that using edibles instead of smoking gives a longer lasting benefit... It if it for medical relief of symptoms how could that be a bad thing? For an interesting look at the responsible sale of edibles check this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 the effects from consumption vs smoking vs pills (thc) are all different. every person reacts differently. which means each method works differently for each person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish_fishburn Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Moosebunk, I don't think OHIP pays for any of it. Its in the hands of the patient. If they cant afford it, to bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Cliff Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Health Minister, Education Minister, the whole bunch of them are MORONS!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLEX ROD Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 As a suffer from chronic pain for almost 21 YEARS, I think that this is a topic that I can shed so light on - FROM MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. Gallie, you are half correct, the other drugs that come to play are all from the Opioid family, and you are correct the side effects can be brutal and one does not know how long the side effects last and also when they will show up as they like to sneak up from behind at times. Pics, the medical controlled dose big pharma option does exist its called Nabilon and once again we don't know the long term issues and the drug basically keeps you at a level where you cant function properly. Moosbunk, OHIP and most insurance plans do not cover it at all so the patient is on their own, so depending on how much they are prescribed as this varies from patient to patient, for me I have 1mg per day I am paying well over $300.00 per month. As a user I now have the option to use it when I really need it, but with the Nabilon you have to use it as prescribed and it has to be in the system so again you are faced with unknown side effects down the road, at least when I am in control I can put it into a vaporiser and turn it into vapor so I don't even have to smoke it and within minutes I will get whatever relief I get. FLEX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirCranksalot Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 The evidence is very clear that using edibles ................. Evidence? Evidence? We don't need no steenking evidence. We've got political dogma! Tons and tons of it. Seeee!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misfish Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 It just puts me to sleep. Well after I have LMAO for an hour. Crazy weed.LOL Oh and to stay on topic. it dosent matter to me, one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish_fishburn Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 FLEX ROD You say it costs you well over 300 per month and you use 1 milligram per day. If I am not mistaken a milligram is 100th of a gram. Maybe you mean a gram per day. No. Even at 300 per oz that is a lot of money. Are you purchasing from the govt grow ops?. This is why prohibition on weed is bad if it were legalized you medical users would be paying probably 50 an ounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunkerhunter Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I fully support the use of medical marijiuana and have seen the direct positive impact it has on several people in my life. I think it is ridiculous that the Canadian government says you can smoke it but cant eat it. I am glad there is some movement in the right direction in our country regarding marijuana laws for med patients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highdrifter Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 FLEX ROD You say it costs you well over 300 per month and you use 1 milligram per day. If I am not mistaken a milligram is 100th of a gram. Maybe you mean a gram per day. No. Even at 300 per oz that is a lot of money. Are you purchasing from the govt grow ops?. This is why prohibition on weed is bad if it were legalized you medical users would be paying probably 50 an ounce. No that's the dosage for the active ingredient in the Nabilone pill. I've checked into it and it's normaly one or two mgs and it's not actually cannabis, it's a synthetic cannabinoid and it's super consentrated. So in effect, it's synthesized cannabis and it takes very little to produce the desired effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLEX ROD Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Sorry fish_fishburn my mistake its a gram a day, but end of the day at least I know what I am getting, and they have different strengths that I have been able to try and have been able to find one that helps a bit. FLEX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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